I wonder if this is the same webinar that was posted earlier. That was suppose to be on Thursday, July 9th but this one says it will be on the 8th.
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G4X: Connecting the Dots (AXIS integrated Flight Display)
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Yes, Is it a different event? I have the 9th on my calendar
Yes, different. Tune in on the 8th, more stuff on the 9th. No beers for egdeltur cause no one took the bet, but someone may be eating an iPad.
Is it just on their youtube channel? Like a live youtube event? I don't see a link to a zoom or anything.
Here is my predication and I am willing to bet a good tasty Ale for it.
The new G3X replacement, whatever they are going to call it, will be slightly bigger screen but will fit into the same panel hole as GDU460 and the same wiring will work however you might need to add more wires or connection to take full advantage of the all functionality. It will have a sharper screen and of course faster processor.
It will be offered in both Experimental and certified version. The Experimental version will be more like the existing GDU460 with the added new features/higher resolution/faster processor. The certified version will include a navigator similar to 625/650, with a COM radio and possibly audio panel and even the ARINC 429 built-in to it. I also predict it will also be offered in the portrait version.
Now the kicker is the price....
It will be offered for free to the first 378 customers for their loyalty and patience, you only pay shipping and tax as uncle SAM needs its share. I predict it will be exciting.
P.S. I have already written a check with some added tips if I am on the first 378 customers
The new G3X replacement, whatever they are going to call it, will be slightly bigger screen but will fit into the same panel hole as GDU460 and the same wiring will work however you might need to add more wires or connection to take full advantage of the all functionality. It will have a sharper screen and of course faster processor.
It will be offered in both Experimental and certified version. The Experimental version will be more like the existing GDU460 with the added new features/higher resolution/faster processor. The certified version will include a navigator similar to 625/650, with a COM radio and possibly audio panel and even the ARINC 429 built-in to it. I also predict it will also be offered in the portrait version.
Now the kicker is the price....
It will be offered for free to the first 378 customers for their loyalty and patience, you only pay shipping and tax as uncle SAM needs its share. I predict it will be exciting.
P.S. I have already written a check with some added tips if I am on the first 378 customers
Pretty sure I said if the new AXXIS system is the g3x upgrade I would eat my ipad. Never said that a parallel release of a g3x upgrade was impossible. sounds like 2 different things are coming. time will tell,m but suppose i need to prepare some condiments, just in case. still believe an evolutionary g3x upgrade is possoble and likely some day and based on todays press, likely now. but do not believe it will be revolutionary. still think that axxis thing is something different and likely for the certified world at commensurate prices.
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Here is my predication and I am willing to bet a good tasty Ale for it.
The new G3X replacement, whatever they are going to call it, will be slightly bigger screen but will fit into the same panel hole as GDU460 and the same wiring will work however you might need to add more wires or connection to take full advantage of the all functionality. It will have a sharper screen and of course faster processor.
It will be offered in both Experimental and certified version. The Experimental version will be more like the existing GDU460 with the added new features/higher resolution/faster processor. The certified version will include a navigator similar to 625/650, with a COM radio and possibly audio panel and even the ARINC 429 built-in to it. I also predict it will also be offered in the portrait version.
Now the kicker is the price....
It will be offered for free to the first 378 customers for their loyalty and patience, you only pay shipping and tax as uncle SAM needs its share. I predict it will be exciting.
P.S. I have already written a check with some added tips if I am on the first 378 customers
My guess is a form-factor upgrade for the GDU460, but with HSDB support to talk to the GTN, XPDR, remote COM. A central HSDB hub for everything eliminates the need for redundant cabling and multiple addresses per device.
And of course, this includes the requisite higher resolution screens, upgraded processor, etc.
If it does this, it would be nice, but I can't say it would make me dump my as of yet unused G3X Touch's.
Seams odd none of these 'leaks' mention experimental at all.. this seams more something new for the general population. Unless there will be some consolidation of lines ($$$ for us).
The first post in this thread mentions experimental. That post was made by Garmin.
Already signed up for that.. still doesn't mention EXP anywhere unless I'm blind.
The picture of a builder squeezing a rivet, with a Lindy in the background should mean something.
I also concur that HDSB will be part of it.
No one has mentioned capacitive touch recently. I imagine this will be part one of the changes.
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The original G3X Touch was designed with provisions to mount the AHRS to the back of the unit. Vibration issues led Garmin to not recommend that option. Works in some airframes but not all.
And in my 8, which is basically a vanilla factory panel with a few holes in it, the panel is capable of flexing a fair amount. With my current GRT EFIS, pushing the buttons a bit hard makes the unit think I've pitched up, which is fun on autopilot. Next panel will be braced in the back.
Vans is a business. Which would draw more attention, new G equipment or something else?
What is in the slsa factory built units?
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Isn’t adahrs integrated in the g5?
Yes it is but it is also totally different hardware and code.
I still see the G5 being required as a backup with any new technology.
IF you have 2 displays then it is not anymore a single point of failure and you still keep the additional integrated functionalities. In the current G3X system, if you have devices connected through serial to one specific GDU and it dies, you can make use of those devices.
There is always a compromise.
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It’s a fight to get your new products out before the competitor maybe?
I was always thinking Garmin for my build, but now… let’s see what Garmin comes up with.
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No real surprise here that Dynon announced 1 day before garmin. This is why companies go to such extreme lengths to keep these things under wraps. Should give you a good idea what the key theme behind garmins release is about, though am sure it also includes a bunch of hardware modernization.
It’s an interesting concept. I’m wondering how it’s certified. The remote box has a TSO for IFR? But the dynon screen doesn’t need to? Or the whole dynon screen needs to be certified now to fly IFR? (Same query for Garmin if they go that way).
Looks like a six pack is your option there as a basic EIFS is an integrated flight deck. But I do agree if there is going to be only a single EIFS, I would want some other separate equipment in case of emergencies.
had the same question and poosted it in the dynon release thread. We'll see if they answer it.
The Dynon product appears to be “In Development” (their words) ….which I know it (the concept of a Dynon IFR navigator) has been “In Development” for about a decade….. and I wish them well - competition is good for the consumer. But show us the hardware!
To that point, it only took Avidyne about 4-5 years to make good on their claims when the IFD's were announced.
I am not sure if Dynon requires a ACM, if so till they have some redundancy for that I would not give it any consideration. One component that can bring EVERYTHING down.
That’s why most carry G5s as backups.
I’m a little bit concerned here with what I would lose if the single EFIS wend down. At the moment under the LRU concept I could keep the Nav working via the separate GNX, and a second com radio. If all that is integrated, with a price tag to match, I could get VERY expensive to have some sort of back up. All I’m asking is for some level of redundancy.
Plus I’m building an -8, so a second screen is a nonstarter.
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or a mad scramble now to get something out the door now in an effort to retain marketshare.. idk. Second to market isn't such a bad thing though..
Nothing has hit the market yet other than a bunch of marketing hype. Based on their FAQ, this thing is far from hitting the market anytime soon. Whatever Garmin announces tomorrow will set the stage for the race to be first to actually have a saleable product. There may only be one racer. Who knows?
This could be interesting.
This is probably a remote mount IFR navigator with the EFIS providing display and controls so hopefully no increased cost on the EFIS.
Similar upgrade cost to what we have now but with no additional panel space requirement.
I wonder if Garmin is using a similar concept ?
I believe the G1000 included in integrated IFR navigator. Early versions were non-WAAS but the later ones were WAAS capable. So this is nothing new but you sell fewer boxes.
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As mentioned earlier the G3X Touch has always included a WAAS GPS receiver using the same hardware as their IFR Navigators.
It appears Garmin decided against using it as an internal IFR nav as the paperwork/approvals would have doubled the cost of the G3X.
I am thinking a remote mount IFR nav with display/controls on the efis is probably the way Garmin are going (similar to the just teased Dynon).
Probably faster processor and sharper screen on the new efis but all the add ins as remote mount devices. This would keep the efis cost reasonable.
I am not expecting the remote IFR nav to be any cheaper than current dash mount models unless there is some new approvals process in MOSAIC that I am not aware of.
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egdeltur
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Woah!!! Not yet- we had the July 9th event on books, this is new, thanks for sharing.
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The G1000 had a remote mounted box with all the LRU's in it. The displays were just that - displays. Radios, transponder, GPS, etc. were all LRU cards mounted in the big box. I expect Garmin's product released tomorrow will be more G3X like with more of the "boxes" as part of the display unit.
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Epic! So 8th is announce and 9th is upgrade webinar. @inktomi did some great sluething with contrast adjustments on the image.
If the new display launches I'll buy a round at Garmin tent 2 at OSH on Monday at 1 pm for whoever can make it @g3xpert want to join?
Also note: TRAC10 says 'Garmin avionics' but not specific model and no images of the screen.
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If the new display launches I'll buy a round at Garmin tent 2 at OSH on Monday at 1 pm for whoever can make it
@g3xpert want to join?Also note: TRAC10 says 'Garmin avionics' but not specific model and no images of the screen.
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That’s funny. So they are just trying to stick a finger in garmins eye a day before their launch? Some days I do miss the entertainment that corporate marketing can provide.
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Come on Garmin, there was no mention of AXIS being free for the first 378 customers.Here is my predication and I am willing to bet a good tasty Ale for it.
The new G3X replacement, whatever they are going to call it, will be slightly bigger screen but will fit into the same panel hole as GDU460 and the same wiring will work however you might need to add more wires or connection to take full advantage of the all functionality. It will have a sharper screen and of course faster processor.
It will be offered in both Experimental and certified version. The Experimental version will be more like the existing GDU460 with the added new features/higher resolution/faster processor. The certified version will include a navigator similar to 625/650, with a COM radio and possibly audio panel and even the ARINC 429 built-in to it. I also predict it will also be offered in the portrait version.
Now the kicker is the price....
It will be offered for free to the first 378 customers for their loyalty and patience, you only pay shipping and tax as uncle SAM needs its share. I predict it will be exciting.
P.S. I have already written a check with some added tips if I am on the first 378 customers
