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08-06-2022, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 156
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Simple solution
Remove the rudder. Store in airplane.
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08-06-2022, 03:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooch
This may sound stupid but how hard would it be to just take off the rudder for the week? P.S. I'm not a builder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Untainted123
That's my suggestion posted above: For most, they are there at least 3 days, and many for the week. We almost always have advanced warning of _some_ kind of high winds coming, by at least a few hours. Go out there, remove the 3 attach bolts and the control cables, stash the hardware and the rudder in the cockpit, put it back on after the storm is past. Only wrinkle is that many probably have hard wired tail lights, but I would rather splice a wire back or convert it to a plug than fix a rudder.
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The talk about removing the rudder has pretty much been only discussing the act of taking the rudder off the plane. Thinking it is only 3 bolts and the rudder cable bolts, oh yes, the light wiring too, is all that needs to be done is looking at it in its simplest form. Although it may seem straightforward in theory, the reality is there is some difficulty in doing so in real life and to do it in an environment such as an air show vs in the hangar may also prove a little more troublesome than first thought.
However easy or difficult the removal of the rudder is in the field, it will pale to the difficulty of putting the rudder back on in the field. Those freaking washers and nuts can be a real pain to get installed on those three bolts in a shop. I cannot imagine how much cussing I would be doing trying to put those bolts, nuts, and washers on out there in that environment. Ok, I can imagine it. I have had to do so before, and at OSH no less, just a few short years ago. I am going to be on my third rudder now having had it destroyed twice now at OSH.
Last edited by RVbySDI : 08-06-2022 at 03:14 PM.
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08-06-2022, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 6,920
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Originally Posted by Walt
As soon as I find the time, I'm going to install the original 8 rudder I built (supplied with the early 7 kits),
seeing all this damage definitely has increased my incentive.
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Same situation, hanging in the basement. If you do I will. 
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08-06-2022, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
Posts: 7,003
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Still using the “Gusbuster”, been to osh every year all week with some pretty serious storms, hasn’t failed me yet. To bad he gave up making them.
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EXP Aircraft Services LLC
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Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
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RV7A built 2004, 2000+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags, MTV-9 prop
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08-06-2022, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
Posts: 7,003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillL
Same situation, hanging in the basement. If you do I will. 
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Need to order some parts to complete, counterweight, fairings, rod ends. Took it down from its shelf today and cleaned it up.
Gonna involve some paint fiberglass work as well so not really a small task, but I’m gonna do it!
I think the smaller rudder also looks better so that another plus.
I even brought home the RV8 plans to look up the P’N’s
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Walt Aronow, DFW, TX (52F)
EXP Aircraft Services LLC
Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
FAA Certified Repair Station, AP/IA/FCC GROL, EAA Technical Counselor
Authorized Garmin G3X Dealer/Installer
RV7A built 2004, 2000+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags, MTV-9 prop
Website: ExpAircraft.com, Email: walt@expaircraft.com, Cell: 972-746-5154
Last edited by Walt : 08-06-2022 at 04:36 PM.
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08-06-2022, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 6,920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt
Need to order some parts to complete, counterweight, fairings, rod ends. Took it down from its shelf today and cleaned it up.
Gonna involve some paint fiberglass work as well so not really a small task, but I’m gonna do it!
I think the smaller rudder also looks better so that another plus.
I even brought home the RV8 plans to look up the P’N’s
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We can not forget the rudder stops too. They revert to the original design. Ugh - more paint.
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Last edited by BillL : 08-06-2022 at 04:54 PM.
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08-06-2022, 05:36 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
Posts: 5,890
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Rudder sock
How about a big sock? Basically a bag that fits the VS and Rudder. Some bungies to hold it down. VS and Rudder become one unit. Less flopping back and forth.
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08-06-2022, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Southwest, USA
Posts: 2,613
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Batons
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Originally Posted by wirejock
How about a big sock? Basically a bag that fits the VS and Rudder. Some bungies to hold it down. VS and Rudder become one unit. Less flopping back and forth.
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Unless you have batons on both sides, I think the sock will tend to push the ruder over hard left or right
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08-06-2022, 06:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Azle, TX
Posts: 216
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVbySDI
However easy or difficult the removal of the rudder is in the field, it will pale to the difficulty of putting the rudder back on in the field.
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I’m sure if we got all the Steve Ingra[ha]m’s together, it wouldn’t take too long 
And yes, I _can_ imagine the stream of cuss words coming from you while putting it back on
I’m sure getting all those washers and what not in there is a pain, especially up in the air on the A model.
Didn’t you have moving blankets or cardboard and Saran Wrap around your wings also? Could you just do the same around the rudder/VS? Might be the best idea yet.
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08-06-2022, 07:46 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Estes Park, CO
Posts: 5,890
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Saran wrap
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Originally Posted by Untainted123
I’m sure if we got all the Steve Ingra[ha]m’s together, it wouldn’t take too long 
And yes, I _can_ imagine the stream of cuss words coming from you while putting it back on
I’m sure getting all those washers and what not in there is a pain, especially up in the air on the A model.
Didn’t you have moving blankets or cardboard and Saran Wrap around your wings also? Could you just do the same around the rudder/VS? Might be the best idea yet.
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I like that idea. Keep precut sections of Coroplast in the plane. Buy a roll of saran wrap and go to town. When it's time, just snip it with scissors.
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Larry Larson
Estes Park, CO
E-mail: wirejock at yahoo dot com
Builder Blog: http://wirejockrv7a.blogspot.com
Donated 12/2022, plus a little extra.
RV-7A #73391, N511RV reserved
Disclaimer
I cannot be, nor will I be, held responsible if you try to do the same things I do and it does not work and/or causes you loss, injury, or even death in the process.
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