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Update on RV-15 Wing Kit Deliveries

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As builders, we’ve all felt that sensation of simply moving too fast. “One more row of rivets before dinner time, I can do it.” That’s when pushing harder actually makes you go slower, a frustrating experience to say the least.

If you were an observer at Van’s for the last few months, and in December especially, you’d recognize that situation in a heartbeat. Everyone from engineering through manufacturing on the factory floor to those moving parts in the warehouse and providing customer service have been running at 100% power. In the last quarter of the year alone, we stood up an entirely new production line for the RV-15’s integral fuel tanks, refined the wing from a manufacturing standpoint, and worked tirelessly with suppliers to get the hundreds of RV-15 wing parts to be in one place at the same time—and at a high level of quality RV builders expect.

Now the confession: We didn’t quite make our shipment goals on the RV-15, and in striving to do so we stretched ourselves to the point where overall parts availability and customer support slipped. On RV-15 shipments, while we were able to support a handful of will-call customers in the last week of December, as hard as we pushed, we didn’t achieve our targets.

Why? A combination of factors. Examples include unexpected supply chain disruptions and delay, continued small changes to improve the fit of parts, incorporating new ideas to take the kit instructions and the new “RV Tackle Box” method of supplying small parts to the next level, etc. Because the fuel tank assembly process is new to us, we wanted to take extra time to ensure the product was right and to incorporate lessons learned into the kits and documentation. These are among the factors that caused us to miss our admittedly ambitious goals.

As a result, we’re going to do the sensible thing and institute a brief delay of early RV-15 deliveries that will allow us to take a breath and focus on the details that will help make the 15 the best and easiest RV to build. Ever. Based upon how quickly the prototype and beta-build examples have come together, we are confident that we are on track.

How long of a delay? Not long. Shipments scheduled for December 31 will be pushed back to January 9. Other shipments will resume on January 23. We want to spend the first part of January better organizing our warehouse, firming up the crating process, and taking another stab at the final processes that bring the RV-15’s parts from manufacturing to their handmade crates. This brief delay will allow customers to receive kits with fewer backorders, too.

It’s worth mentioning that the RV-15 is the first all-new design from Van’s in a long while, with unprecedented early demand. We are on pace to deliver significantly more RV-15 wing kits in the first several months than the entire first year of production on the RV-14. That makes the RV-15 a big undertaking, even for a company as experienced as Van’s. Plus, the RV-15 will introduce significantly improved kit instructions for Van’s, samples of which we will soon post on the RV-15 page at vansaircraft.com. Our engineering team worked long, long hours to make them a reality.

We recognize the push to deliver the RV-15 wing kits has impacted the rest of the business, from fulfilling parts orders placed on our website to deliveries of kit components for other models. We’re taking steps to get this back in balance. In the short term, we’re slightly revising (lengthening) lead times for empennage kits so we can spend more time on parts orders and better meet customer expectations. We are also redoubling our efforts to keep the kit-status portal up to date with estimated crating dates—builders can expect to see updated estimated crating dates appear by January 5, when the entire kit-sales staff is returns from the New Year's break. We are not delaying any non-RV-15 orders.

Bottom line: We need to take a moment, slow down, get things back in order, and then proceed at a healthy pace for our employees and customers so everyone has an improved experience.

Thank you, as always, for supporting us. There are 137 people in Aurora, Oregon, who appreciate the special bond you create as that dream airplane takes shape in front of you, with your own hands. We understand the eagerness to get started. The wait won’t be long. The results will be worth it.
 
As builders, we’ve all felt that sensation of simply moving too fast. “One more row of rivets before dinner time, I can do it.” That’s when pushing harder actually makes you go slower, a frustrating experience to say the least.

If you were an observer at Van’s for the last few months, and in December especially, you’d recognize that situation in a heartbeat. Everyone from engineering through manufacturing on the factory floor to those moving parts in the warehouse and providing customer service have been running at 100% power. In the last quarter of the year alone, we stood up an entirely new production line for the RV-15’s integral fuel tanks, refined the wing from a manufacturing standpoint, and worked tirelessly with suppliers to get the hundreds of RV-15 wing parts to be in one place at the same time—and at a high level of quality RV builders expect.

Now the confession: We didn’t quite make our shipment goals on the RV-15, and in striving to do so we stretched ourselves to the point where overall parts availability and customer support slipped. On RV-15 shipments, while we were able to support a handful of will-call customers in the last week of December, as hard as we pushed, we didn’t achieve our targets.

Why? A combination of factors. Examples include unexpected supply chain disruptions and delay, continued small changes to improve the fit of parts, incorporating new ideas to take the kit instructions and the new “RV Tackle Box” method of supplying small parts to the next level, etc. Because the fuel tank assembly process is new to us, we wanted to take extra time to ensure the product was right and to incorporate lessons learned into the kits and documentation. These are among the factors that caused us to miss our admittedly ambitious goals.

As a result, we’re going to do the sensible thing and institute a brief delay of early RV-15 deliveries that will allow us to take a breath and focus on the details that will help make the 15 the best and easiest RV to build. Ever. Based upon how quickly the prototype and beta-build examples have come together, we are confident that we are on track.

How long of a delay? Not long. Shipments scheduled for December 31 will be pushed back to January 9. Other shipments will resume on January 23. We want to spend the first part of January better organizing our warehouse, firming up the crating process, and taking another stab at the final processes that bring the RV-15’s parts from manufacturing to their handmade crates. This brief delay will allow customers to receive kits with fewer backorders, too.

It’s worth mentioning that the RV-15 is the first all-new design from Van’s in a long while, with unprecedented early demand. We are on pace to deliver significantly more RV-15 wing kits in the first several months than the entire first year of production on the RV-14. That makes the RV-15 a big undertaking, even for a company as experienced as Van’s. Plus, the RV-15 will introduce significantly improved kit instructions for Van’s, samples of which we will soon post on the RV-15 page at vansaircraft.com. Our engineering team worked long, long hours to make them a reality.

We recognize the push to deliver the RV-15 wing kits has impacted the rest of the business, from fulfilling parts orders placed on our website to deliveries of kit components for other models. We’re taking steps to get this back in balance. In the short term, we’re slightly revising (lengthening) lead times for empennage kits so we can spend more time on parts orders and better meet customer expectations. We are also redoubling our efforts to keep the kit-status portal up to date with estimated crating dates—builders can expect to see updated estimated crating dates appear by January 5, when the entire kit-sales staff is returns from the New Year's break. We are not delaying any non-RV-15 orders.

Bottom line: We need to take a moment, slow down, get things back in order, and then proceed at a healthy pace for our employees and customers so everyone has an improved experience.

Thank you, as always, for supporting us. There are 137 people in Aurora, Oregon, who appreciate the special bond you create as that dream airplane takes shape in front of you, with your own hands. We understand the eagerness to get started. The wait won’t be long. The results will be worth it.

Thank you for the update! The communication is much appreciated.

“The waiting is the hardest part.” - Tom Petty
 
I don't know, the waiting part has it's own charm. It's always nice to have something to look forward to.

The hardest part is maintaining confidence in Van's ability to execute on just about anything.
If you are lacking that confidence, it might be best not to order anything...kind of hard, though, if you are already into a project.
 
And thank you for keeping us updated. Most people are willing to accept "bad news" as long as there is a good explanation as to why. Getting information directly from Vans goes a long way towards improving customer service and is very much appreciated!
Exactly what I told Mikael when he called me this afternoon!
 
Happy New Year! . . . and thanks for the letter. There is no shame in doing this correctly while getting production going. It sets the right tone for customers and employees - this a job to be done in the right way so all can be proud of it.

I worked for Western Electric in 1971 - they had a motto, "If you don't have time to do the job right, you won't have time to do it over. "
 
Thanks for the thorough update, and the direct customer service call today. It is true that we can hardly wait to get started and while the extended wait is a slight bit of a bummer, in the end, patience is still a necessary virtue in the homebuilding endeavor. Better to get it right rather than just get it quickly. There is not much room for the demand for instant gratification here... heck, we're entering year five working on our RV-10. We've been waiting since July 2021 for the -15, another ten days for the wings is practically nothing!
~Florence
 
Thanks for a very thoughtful, transparent update. I think this reset bodes well for both the RV-15 and Van’s as a company.
 
I work in emergency medicine and it's very, very tempting to rush things when you have an unstable patient. One of the best pieces of advice I've learned (thank you Dr Weingart) is "Slow is smooth; smooth is fast." Right now, Van's is going slow and that's just fine with me :-)
 
Thank you for the extensive update. I'm on board with taking the time to get things right and not killing yourselves to get there. While it appears you are also improving upon the manual as a part of this delay is there any chance of giving those of us in the queue the current digital edition of the manual to chew on in the interim?
 
I happened to be one of the lucky few who was able to pick up my kit yesterday.

While I was waiting my turn to pick up my kit, I was given a tour of the facility.
I come from a background of working in machine shops and factories.
I was really impressed with the effort everyone was putting into their work. Everyone I met was really friendly and interested in what they were doing. There are no slackers at Van’s.

I saw a lot of RV-15 parts working their way towards being packaged. Lots of spars, wing skins, ribs, etc.
It’s just a short matter of time before you unpack your crate.

There’s airplane parts in there somewhere…..

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Put this crunch in perspective. Best numbers I can find appears Cessna produced 180 +- 172's and 66 182's in 2023. Van's has managed to darn near produce 100 plus wing kits plus 1100 or so other kits ( divide by 6 for airplane equivqlents ) means they produced and sourced 200 or so airplanes in 2025. That ain't bad coming out of a nasty 2024. That does not count the SLSA 12s sent out the door, not an inconsequential number. To see the 15 go from 0 to 100 in six months is quite the achievement and I am thankful for the long term stability the 15 is building for the company. I applaud the effort to communicate, it has gotten better whether phone calls, posting here, or an email. Happy New Year to the folks at Van's and to those waiting it will be a good year for you too by all indications.
 
Thank you for the extensive update. I'm on board with taking the time to get things right and not killing yourselves to get there. While it appears you are also improving upon the manual as a part of this delay is there any chance of giving those of us in the queue the current digital edition of the manual to chew on in the interim?

They posted this on the main RV-15 page today. Gives you a few things to chew on!
 
Put this crunch in perspective. Best numbers I can find appears Cessna produced 180 +- 172's and 66 182's in 2023. Van's has managed to darn near produce 100 plus wing kits plus 1100 or so other kits ( divide by 6 for airplane equivqlents ) means they produced and sourced 200 or so airplanes in 2025. That ain't bad coming out of a nasty 2024. That does not count the SLSA 12s sent out the door, not an inconsequential number. To see the 15 go from 0 to 100 in six months is quite the achievement and I am thankful for the long term stability the 15 is building for the company. I applaud the effort to communicate, it has gotten better whether phone calls, posting here, or an email. Happy New Year to the folks at Van's and to those waiting it will be a good year for you too by all indications.
It went from 0 to 127 in one week. I volunteer at AirVenture and was unable to get over to their booth until Sunday and I got SN 127
 
As builders, we’ve all felt that sensation of simply moving too fast. “One more row of rivets before dinner time, I can do it.” That’s when pushing harder actually makes you go slower, a frustrating experience to say the least.

If you were an observer at Van’s for the last few months, and in December especially, you’d recognize that situation in a heartbeat. Everyone from engineering through manufacturing on the factory floor to those moving parts in the warehouse and providing customer service have been running at 100% power. In the last quarter of the year alone, we stood up an entirely new production line for the RV-15’s integral fuel tanks, refined the wing from a manufacturing standpoint, and worked tirelessly with suppliers to get the hundreds of RV-15 wing parts to be in one place at the same time—and at a high level of quality RV builders expect.

Now the confession: We didn’t quite make our shipment goals on the RV-15, and in striving to do so we stretched ourselves to the point where overall parts availability and customer support slipped. On RV-15 shipments, while we were able to support a handful of will-call customers in the last week of December, as hard as we pushed, we didn’t achieve our targets.

Why? A combination of factors. Examples include unexpected supply chain disruptions and delay, continued small changes to improve the fit of parts, incorporating new ideas to take the kit instructions and the new “RV Tackle Box” method of supplying small parts to the next level, etc. Because the fuel tank assembly process is new to us, we wanted to take extra time to ensure the product was right and to incorporate lessons learned into the kits and documentation. These are among the factors that caused us to miss our admittedly ambitious goals.

As a result, we’re going to do the sensible thing and institute a brief delay of early RV-15 deliveries that will allow us to take a breath and focus on the details that will help make the 15 the best and easiest RV to build. Ever. Based upon how quickly the prototype and beta-build examples have come together, we are confident that we are on track.

How long of a delay? Not long. Shipments scheduled for December 31 will be pushed back to January 9. Other shipments will resume on January 23. We want to spend the first part of January better organizing our warehouse, firming up the crating process, and taking another stab at the final processes that bring the RV-15’s parts from manufacturing to their handmade crates. This brief delay will allow customers to receive kits with fewer backorders, too.

It’s worth mentioning that the RV-15 is the first all-new design from Van’s in a long while, with unprecedented early demand. We are on pace to deliver significantly more RV-15 wing kits in the first several months than the entire first year of production on the RV-14. That makes the RV-15 a big undertaking, even for a company as experienced as Van’s. Plus, the RV-15 will introduce significantly improved kit instructions for Van’s, samples of which we will soon post on the RV-15 page at vansaircraft.com. Our engineering team worked long, long hours to make them a reality.

We recognize the push to deliver the RV-15 wing kits has impacted the rest of the business, from fulfilling parts orders placed on our website to deliveries of kit components for other models. We’re taking steps to get this back in balance. In the short term, we’re slightly revising (lengthening) lead times for empennage kits so we can spend more time on parts orders and better meet customer expectations. We are also redoubling our efforts to keep the kit-status portal up to date with estimated crating dates—builders can expect to see updated estimated crating dates appear by January 5, when the entire kit-sales staff is returns from the New Year's break. We are not delaying any non-RV-15 orders.

Bottom line: We need to take a moment, slow down, get things back in order, and then proceed at a healthy pace for our employees and customers so everyone has an improved experience.

Thank you, as always, for supporting us. There are 137 people in Aurora, Oregon, who appreciate the special bond you create as that dream airplane takes shape in front of you, with your own hands. We understand the eagerness to get started. The wait won’t be long. The results will be worth it.
Greg (and the rest of the team at Vans),
When things are speeding up and beginning to get out of hand …. First, wind your watch!

Good luck getting properly configured and under control.

Pjc
 
Greg (and the rest of the team at Vans),
When things are speeding up and beginning to get out of hand …. First, wind your watch!

Good luck getting properly configured and under control.

Pjc
Greg left Vans shortly after Oshkosh.
 
When things are speeding up and beginning to get out of hand …. First, wind your watch!
Exactly! When an engine winds down and the MASTER CAUTION is blaring red.....hack the clock!
Van's is doing that, and letting us know they're doing it. EP-101: Approach the situation with a cleared and open mind.
 
Looks my estimated date moved from mid Jan to late March. Kit status page seems to have been updated. Kit #131. Time to do more hangar cleaning and organizing :)

-Sam
 
Thanks, I've been trying to noodle out how many serial numbers they reserved.
Vans has said that they reserved 1-15. I have heard the serial number 127 sold at Oshkosh, but I can't confirm. I understand that the two folks who picked up their kits early had been #16 and 17 but were moved up to 13 and 14. (Friends with benefits, I presume.) Then, I was moved up to 150016, I guess making me (or my husband) another friend with benefits.
 
Vans has said that they reserved 1-15. I have heard the serial number 127 sold at Oshkosh, but I can't confirm. I understand that the two folks who picked up their kits early had been #16 and 17 but were moved up to 13 and 14. (Friends with benefits, I presume.) Then, I was moved up to 150016, I guess making me (or my husband) another friend with benefits.
Oh boy... I've always understood this to mean something totally different. Either Van's has really stepped up their game, or Louise needs to find a new choice of words. ☺️
 
Vans has said that they reserved 1-15. I have heard the serial number 127 sold at Oshkosh, but I can't confirm. I understand that the two folks who picked up their kits early had been #16 and 17 but were moved up to 13 and 14. (Friends with benefits, I presume.) Then, I was moved up to 150016, I guess making me (or my husband) another friend with benefits.
Ah, they are just courting the "influencers"...
 
Ah, they are just courting the "influencers"...

It may not be to Van's benefit but there is some influencing going on between Paul and Louise, @wirejock, and at least one or two others.

I just spent $600 with Brown Tool this morning on things I probably could have skipped and gotten by without, or borrowed.
 
Vans has said that they reserved 1-15. I have heard the serial number 127 sold at Oshkosh, but I can't confirm. I understand that the two folks who picked up their kits early had been #16 and 17 but were moved up to 13 and 14. (Friends with benefits, I presume.) Then, I was moved up to 150016, I guess making me (or my husband) another friend with benefits.
Yes, I'm #127 and since I volunteer parking airplanes all over the south half of the field I couldn't get to the Vans area until midafternoon the final Sunday. They were already packing up but I was able to get the order in that night online. That Sunday and Monday are really busy for us because what takes two weeks to get set up gets pulled back in and packed away in two days.
 
It may not be to Van's benefit but there is some influencing going on between Paul and Louise, @wirejock, and at least one or two others.

I just spent $600 with Brown Tool this morning on things I probably could have skipped and gotten by without, or borrowed.
Excuse me?
I built a 7A and haven't spoken to anyone at Van's in a couple years.
 
Excuse me?
I built a 7A and haven't spoken to anyone at Van's in a couple years.
I'm sorry, that was apparently worded in a way that did not carry the intent. An attempt at dry humor, which I think I should probably give up.

I did not mean anything at all regarding Van's or favors or anything like that. Just that you all are 'influencers', credible folks that influenced my tool purchase. Louise illustrated where I will need it, you helped me settle on the Sioux. That's a good thing.
 
I’m hoping to get started in may or June, looks like if I order next week, that should be about right?
 
I spy, with my little eye, a set of crates heading to Colorado! Can't wait to get started.
 
I'm sorry, that was apparently worded in a way that did not carry the intent. An attempt at dry humor, which I think I should probably give up.

I did not mean anything at all regarding Van's or favors or anything like that. Just that you all are 'influencers', credible folks that influenced my tool purchase. Louise illustrated where I will need it, you helped me settle on the Sioux. That's a good thing.
I misinterpreted. No one gets my sense of humor either. Let's keep 'em guessing!

Happy to help if I can.
 
Well, I am kit #27 but do not see my name. I will say i am looking at it on an iPad so the resolution is a bit fuzzy. Can you verify kit #27 is being shipped soon?
Hi, Steve. If you log into the kit-status portal and plug in just a couple of pieces of info, you should see your estimated crating date. The portal was updated last week.
 
Anyone know who at Van's to notify about inventory discrepancies?
I tried emailing [email protected] but haven't received a reply since I sent the email on 1/7.

I was hoping that the missing parts could be sent with the backordered parts.
 
#66 just arrived in rural East Texas this morning. I was at work. As I had feared, the shipper said they would only drop curbside at our driveway entrance - a good hundred yards from my shop door. My resourceful wife showed the driver a picture of Benjamin Franklin. The crates were neatly stacked in my shop 15 minutes later. 😉
 

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#66 just arrived in rural East Texas this morning. I was at work. As I had feared, the shipper said they would only drop curbside at our driveway entrance - a good hundred yards from my shop door. My resourceful wife showed the driver a picture of Benjamin Franklin. The crates were neatly stacked in my shop 15 minutes later. 😉
Excellent! Any chance you could give us the dimensions of the gas tank crate. Van's do not have the crate dimensions on their website for the tank crates.
 
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