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Thoughts on the B&C LX60 Alternator

bjdecker

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The fun continues. After tearing apart the Plane Power AL12-EI60 and ND -2130 I thought I would turn my attention to the B&C LX60 Alternator. Here's a picture -- hello gorgeous, what secrets lay within, I wonder?

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The B&C appears to be a clone of the ND 101211-2950, 101211-2960 (DAN2017, DAN2029), and WAI 12651N, to name a few. However, the stator and SRE are clocked to 3'oclock, which puts the B+ terminal on the bottom side in a Lycoming installation.

1. The Drive End (DE) and Slip Ring End (SRE) brackets contain Koyo Brand bearings - 6202RMX and 6002RD, 35mm x 11mm x 15mm and 32mm x 11mm x 15mm respectively. No expansion compensation in the SRE.
2. The DE Bracket is of unknown manufacture, clone of the ND DE 101211-2950 bracket.
3. The SRE Bracket is also of unknown manufacture, clones of the ND SRE 101211-2950 bracket
Additional details - the O.D. of the DE and SRE case halves is 106.5mm.
4. The regulator is a clone of the ND 126000-1800, manufactured by MobileTron; model VR-H2005-60. B&C has reworked it's internals to bypass all functionality. It's just along for the ride ;)
5. The rectifier is a clone of the ND 021580-3030, of unknown manufacture. It is comprised of a mixture of 8 diodes, 4 35A, 4 50A. The length of the B+ post is <31mm. There has been work done to remove the B+ connection to the regulator and make use of the external regulator.
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6. The brush set is a clone of the ND 021620-2010, of unknown manufacture.

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7. The stator is glued into the DE bracket after re-clocking. It is a clone of the ND 21100-2860, 50A. Unknown manufacturer.
8. The rotor is a clone of the ND 011200-5420. It has undergone quite a bit of balancing -- Almost every prawl (12) has some amount of material removed. The fans are pitched the same as the ND -2130 Toyota rotor, which is different than Honda and Plane Power.

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9. B&C fabricated an additional bracket that bolts on to the SRE for a more stable mounting.

...and it's painted (not anodized) in gold...

My impressions -- The B&C is just another ND clone alternator with the weakest part of the system moved elsewhere (regulator). The castings are nicely done and finished and the machining is good, everything fits well, and operates smoothly. Like the Plane Power, the bearings are upgraded (NTN, Koyo) over the run-of-the-mill versions. Given the amount of balancing work done and the upgraded bearings, I can understand why B&C hasn't had the SRE bearing cavity issue, and other failures associated with vibration as the Pre-2020 variants of the Plane Power.

-- Post Script --

I'd like for the hive mind to weigh in and see if y'all might be able to figure out who manufactured the brush holder and rectifier.
The part number and date codes stamped on the brush holder and rectifier are very unique -- someone must know who does things this way.

e.g.
JT064-53
YY22B26

CT080-1
YY22B21

Cheers all!
 
Another excellent reveal - - THANKS! I was under the impression that the B&C was an OEM ND that was rebalanced to tighter tolerances and was jumpered to allow external voltage control.

Can/did you measure the OD of the stator and OD of the rotor? I the PP is a 100mm OD stator. If the B&C is 100mm then we can clearly identify the SRE housing.
Are you sure the 6002RD bearing is 11mm axially? I looked up the number and it was reported as 9mm Koyo bearing with contact (light) seal - - meaning a low drag torque seal.
 
Another excellent reveal - - THANKS! I was under the impression that the B&C was an OEM ND that was rebalanced to tighter tolerances and was jumpered to allow external voltage control.

Can/did you measure the OD of the stator and OD of the rotor? I the PP is a 100mm OD stator. If the B&C is 100mm then we can clearly identify the SRE housing.
Are you sure the 6002RD bearing is 11mm axially? I looked up the number and it was reported as 9mm Koyo bearing with contact (light) seal - - meaning a low drag torque seal.
The rotor O.D. is 76.4mm, The stator O.D. is 100mm.
The SRE Housing was difficult to cross with an ND part #; AS-PL has it as an ABR6152S from a Denso 101211-2950 unit. No "leg", ~106mm OD, 32mm cavity I.D., One additional modification that I forgot to mention previously, B&C drilled/tapped 4th hole adjacent to the outer of the 3 rectifier hold down holes, this is for the brush-to-ground connection. B&C flipped the brush polarities -- not that it matters... (marked in magenta in second picture).

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I measured the bearing (it's pressed on to the spindle) and it was 11mm; I agree tho, the 6002RD is supposed to be a 9mm. Maybe I got the number wrong -- I'll double check today and report back.

Edit: More homework -- the size of the SRE bearing is 15x32x11. Koyo - cross reference by size to a Koyo(Denso) bearing - p/n 949100-317(0). Now I gotta look at the thing and see what's printed on it...
 
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@BillL

Bill --

This is a mystery -- the bearing is clearly marked "KOYO 010 W 6002RD" (pic).

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...And it measures 32mm x 15mm x 11mm...

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On a lark, I checked the -2130 bearing -- it is also marked "WBD 6002 WRS" and measures 32mm x 15mm x 11mm...

I am guessing the "W" means "Wide" -- but it should show up in the catalog...

Bizarre...
 
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