CubedRoot
Well Known Member
Well, its winter time here in TN (Finally), and I am about halfway through my empennage. I still have plenty of parts to prime, but since I am spraying outside the weather pretty much dictates when I can proceed with my work.
I am building the plane in my unfinished basement. My lower level houses a garage, a utility room (with the furnance, water heater, server rack, etc), and then my build area (which includes a section for my wifes workout equipment). Each of these spaces are completely separate, and my build area is heated and cooled and fully insulated, but has no drywall up.
It's in the shape of an "L", with my build area in the longest section of the L. On the shorter side the L, there is a stubbed and studded area for a bathroom. Currently, this area gets used for storage, and I keep my trash boxes over there for the debris from building. I have been seriously considering enclosing the bathroom area off with plastic and using it as a spray booth for AKZO, so I don't have to rely on weather for my outdoors spraying.
Here is a diagram of the lower level:
I have marked out on that diagram, in red, where the bathroom area is laid out. I have stubbed in the pluming and studded the walls. But, it its not finished. The part marked "Future Area" is the area where I am building the plane, and my wifes workout space. My plans were to go ahead and finish the bathroom so I would have one for my build sessions, but now I am considering using that area as a temporary paint booth.
The rest of the house sits on top of the lower level, and there is thick insulation between the upper and lower floors. This is a new construction home, and the sealing is very good between the floors to meet the local fire codes.
Here's some photos of the area to get an idea:
And a bit closer in:
Here is what I have been thinking, and I like your guys input:
1. Completely seal all walls and ceiling with medium plastic, sealing all seams with duct tape.
2. Get a cheap door for that door frame I studded in to make access easier and help seal.
3. Build a header box on to attach to the lower portion of the open studded wall (with the light switch and hose bib plumbing in it). Build this box big enough to house a HVAC filter to filter out particulate
4. Use a HArbor Freight ventilator (or two) or some other blower to suck the air from this "plastic room" and expel it via a hose
5. Attach the exhaust hose to a board that I can temporarily stick in the window when I want to spray so that all the AKZO and Acetone fumes are vented outside.
Now, I am currently using Acetone to clean my parts. My regular routine has been to use a respirator while I clean the parts in the basement, and then move outside to spray the AKZO primer. AKZO is pretty mean stuff, so I have been spraying outside to keep fumes down, BUT, even when I bring the parts in to the basement after spraying, they still have a smell to them. My basement will smell like Acetone and a faint AKZO smell for a couple days after a priming session. Luckily, my wifes sensitive sniffer can't smell any fumes in the upstairs living area of the house.
Would it be safe to do this, given I cover all 4 walls and the ceiling with plastic, seal it good and vent it outside using a blower? I still need to think about where to pull the fresh air from, and I was thinking about using a vent in the top area of the plastic and pulling from the basement area. I'll have to open the door into the garage to pull fresh air from the front side of the house, instead of the back where the exhaust is, but that might be OK.
Is this a good idea? Any concerns about explosions from using a ventilator? I have seen some on Amazon that are using sealed motors, but they are in the $200 range, and I am not sure they'd be any safer than the HF blowers.
I am building the plane in my unfinished basement. My lower level houses a garage, a utility room (with the furnance, water heater, server rack, etc), and then my build area (which includes a section for my wifes workout equipment). Each of these spaces are completely separate, and my build area is heated and cooled and fully insulated, but has no drywall up.
It's in the shape of an "L", with my build area in the longest section of the L. On the shorter side the L, there is a stubbed and studded area for a bathroom. Currently, this area gets used for storage, and I keep my trash boxes over there for the debris from building. I have been seriously considering enclosing the bathroom area off with plastic and using it as a spray booth for AKZO, so I don't have to rely on weather for my outdoors spraying.
Here is a diagram of the lower level:
I have marked out on that diagram, in red, where the bathroom area is laid out. I have stubbed in the pluming and studded the walls. But, it its not finished. The part marked "Future Area" is the area where I am building the plane, and my wifes workout space. My plans were to go ahead and finish the bathroom so I would have one for my build sessions, but now I am considering using that area as a temporary paint booth.
The rest of the house sits on top of the lower level, and there is thick insulation between the upper and lower floors. This is a new construction home, and the sealing is very good between the floors to meet the local fire codes.
Here's some photos of the area to get an idea:
And a bit closer in:
Here is what I have been thinking, and I like your guys input:
1. Completely seal all walls and ceiling with medium plastic, sealing all seams with duct tape.
2. Get a cheap door for that door frame I studded in to make access easier and help seal.
3. Build a header box on to attach to the lower portion of the open studded wall (with the light switch and hose bib plumbing in it). Build this box big enough to house a HVAC filter to filter out particulate
4. Use a HArbor Freight ventilator (or two) or some other blower to suck the air from this "plastic room" and expel it via a hose
5. Attach the exhaust hose to a board that I can temporarily stick in the window when I want to spray so that all the AKZO and Acetone fumes are vented outside.
Now, I am currently using Acetone to clean my parts. My regular routine has been to use a respirator while I clean the parts in the basement, and then move outside to spray the AKZO primer. AKZO is pretty mean stuff, so I have been spraying outside to keep fumes down, BUT, even when I bring the parts in to the basement after spraying, they still have a smell to them. My basement will smell like Acetone and a faint AKZO smell for a couple days after a priming session. Luckily, my wifes sensitive sniffer can't smell any fumes in the upstairs living area of the house.
Would it be safe to do this, given I cover all 4 walls and the ceiling with plastic, seal it good and vent it outside using a blower? I still need to think about where to pull the fresh air from, and I was thinking about using a vent in the top area of the plastic and pulling from the basement area. I'll have to open the door into the garage to pull fresh air from the front side of the house, instead of the back where the exhaust is, but that might be OK.
Is this a good idea? Any concerns about explosions from using a ventilator? I have seen some on Amazon that are using sealed motors, but they are in the $200 range, and I am not sure they'd be any safer than the HF blowers.