Turbo69bird
Well Known Member
I do believe the RV is now eligible for 2 inch n numbers anyone have them on a 6 yet?
Im assuming you don?t need to add the X to reg, just add it on the n number only?
Has there been a recent change to the size of the n numbers?
Mike S
Glasair III
I'm reading AC 45-2E (10/01/2015) and I can't find where an RV can use the "X" prefix or 2" N-numbers.
Is there a newer version of AC 45-2E? Is an RV now considered an antique aircraft?
Has there been a recent change to the size of the n numbers?
Mike S
Glasair III
?Antique? aircraft (30 years old) or a ?replica? of an aircraft that was flying 30 years ago can display 2? N numbers. An experimental ?antique? or ?replica? can also display NX in the N number instead of the required 2? EXPERIMENTAL placard
I'm reading AC 45-2E (10/01/2015) and I can't find where an RV can use the "X" prefix or 2" N-numbers.
Is there a newer version of AC 45-2E? Is an RV now considered an antique aircraft?
No, the rules have not changed for decades. What is being referred to is that a small U.S. registered aircraft, an experimental exhibition, or experimental amateur-built replica of an aircraft built over 30 years ago may display 2" N numbers. ref part 45.22(b).
For the "X", and 2" limitation, ref part 45.22(b).
“Antique” aircraft (30 years old) or a “replica” of an aircraft that was flying 30 years ago can display 2” N numbers. An experimental “antique” or “replica” can also display NX in the N number instead of the required 2” EXPERIMENTAL placard
How long ago did the first RV-8 fly?
Am I to infer that an RV built yesterday is considered a replica of an RV built 30 years ago, and therefore eligible under the chapter and verse stated?
Yes, the RV-3, -4, and -6 are all eligible.
I HOPE I get my RV-7 flying before it?s eligible for 2? numbers....
What's the exact magic date for a -6A?
I used both the "X" and 2" numbers on my latest project, but it is an experimental amateur-built replica of a 1918 Fokker D.VII.
I don't know the exact date, but I seem to remember that the -6A came out while I was building my -6 sometime in the late '80s.
I remember because when I ordered my fuselage kit it came earlier than expected because they started delivering the "A" kits which freed up the TD kits.
From my builder's log: "09/18/1989 - Completed inventory of fuselage kit - Shortages noted to Van's."
I think it was late spring 1988 (but I don't know the exact month)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=666RV
First big public debut was OSH 88
Looks like the Airworthiness Certificate (Market Survey) was issued 11/29/87, so I think one could reasonably assume that it flew before the end of March, 1988. Therefore it should be eligible for 2" numbers and "NXxxxxx".
Clean your glasses Mel.....
The date you are looking at is 11/29/2017
That is when the last Market Survey C of A was issued (they are only good for a year)
It looks like the orig certificate was issued 04/21/1988, so I wasn't too far off.
Clean your glasses Mel.....
The date you are looking at is 11/29/2017
That is when the last Market Survey C of A was issued (they are only good for a year)
It looks like the orig certificate was issued 04/21/1988, so I wasn't too far off.
So in 3 weeks I can peel off my 3 inch vinyl numbers and change it to NX61GX in 2 inch numbers
Neat.
How much you wanna bet that rule will get changed when 100s or 1000s of RVs switch to 2" numbers?
Not likely to change. There are lots of airplanes been flying around for years with 2" numbers.
I used both the "X" and 2" numbers on my latest project, but it is an experimental amateur-built replica of a 1918 Fokker D.VII.
It should be a violation of the forum rules to post this without including pictures.
So in 3 weeks I can peel off my 3 inch vinyl numbers and change it to NX61GX in 2 inch numbers
Neat.
Hmmm....
Sam's Fokker is a replica in appearance, only. Nothing about it, structural, powerplant, etc, is anything like the original.
Can I apply the same standard to my -7 (replica of a -6, obviously), when I get ready to apply the N numbers?
Charlie
(More popcorn, please.)
What about Sam's Fokker?
Is there a good policy document or reg that defines "configuration?" I'm guessing, based on what I'm hearing, that it doesn't include such things as powerplant, but where are the bright lines?Nope! Sorry, but the RV-7 is not a replica of the RV-6.
Actually there are a lot of "X" N numbers out there that are not legal to the letter of the law. FAA, Washington, interprets "replica" to be of the same configuration up to and including dimensional size. So, technically, even a 3/4 scale P-51 does not meet the rule.