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Garmin 760
- Thread starter texdog
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aera 760, like the aera 660, gets tis-b traffic and fis-b weather and notams/tfrs. you might need to be in the air for ten minutes over a ground station as it takes a while to initially load. you also have to select weather radar to see it on the moving map, or jump to the dedicated weather page. cheers
Cal
Cal
How exactly? That is, without the Garmin GDL 50/51/52.
Fred
Easiest way is to keep your XM weather subscription and transfer to the 760, cheapest is to use your UAT to show weather on an iPad, next cheapest is to buy a used GDL 39 or GDL 39R (around $400 on eBay) which will give you weather and traffic on the 760, then you can start moving up to the GNX375 to get everything in one box and use the 760 as the display for everything including approaches.
Figs
Easiest way is to keep your XM weather subscription and transfer to the 760, cheapest is to use your UAT to show weather on an iPad, next cheapest is to buy a used GDL 39 or GDL 39R (around $400 on eBay) which will give you weather and traffic on the 760, then you can start moving up to the GNX375 to get everything in one box and use the 760 as the display for everything including approaches.
Figs
My 660 requires a GDL 50
danny
Hi Steve,
He will need either a GDL 51/51R (SXM Weather and Music) or a GDL 52/52R (ADS-B traffic/weather and SXM Weather/Music) to display SXM Weather on his Aera 760.
Steve
Hello Steve,
He is using a Garmin 330ES transponder to send traffic.
Hi Steve,
The GTX 330ES does not provide ADS-B traffic, only TIS-A traffic which only works around a few larger airports and you quickly lose that service as you fly away from those airports. Many of us remember the world before ADS-B when we used to hear the "traffic not available" aural annunciation as we flew outside of the limited TIS-A service area.
We were glad to have TIS-A when that is all that was available, but TIS-A is slowly being phased out in favor of ADS-B which is vastly superior and works air-to-air to see both 1090ES targets and 978 UAT targets everywhere without ground station assistance. It also provides ground station uplink of TIS-B targets which are non-ADS-B equipped aircraft using Mode C transponders which are in radar contact.
To take full advantage of ADS-B target trend traffic (both air-to-air and TIS-B), receiving on both 1090/978 Mhz with his Aera 760, Fred would need to source traffic from one of the following devices:
GDL 39/39R: ADS-B traffic and weather
GDL 50/50R: ADS-B traffic and weather
GDL 52/52R: ADS-B traffic and weather plus SXM weather and radio
GNX 375: ADS-B traffic and weather
GTX 345: ADS-B traffic and weather
GTX 45R: ADS-B traffic and weather
Steve
THANK YOU! This is the best explanation! Well written and so easy to understand. KUDOS!
A bit confusing from an upgrade perspective like Fred is doing. Basically if you move from a Aera 696 with SiriusXM weather via the GXM 40 integrated antenna, to the Aera 760 you cannot migrate your XM subscription but have to buy another device to replace the GXM 40 functionality. This turns what seems a simple $1800 upgrade for a few extra features into a $3000 upgrade. The 760 also drops some other useful 696 features such as scratchpad and user ICON location selection. I would think a Garmin 696 >> 760 upgrade document would be useful to prevent surprises. The use of the phrase "supports SiriusXM radio and weather" can be misinterpreted.
Figs
Figs
This was covered pretty well in 2020 when the Aera 760 was introduced.
04/29/2020: Garmin Introduces the Aera 760 Portable Aviation GPS
Garmin is pleased to introduce the aera 760, a premium aviation portable that is purpose-built for the pilot and the cockpit. The aera 760 boasts a 7-inch bright, sunlight readable touchscreen display complete with comprehensive chart options in a compact and dedicated portable GPS. Additional...
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If you have any questions like this, just ask!
I have been using Garmin portables for over 30 yrs since I bought my first one at Oshkosh 1993. In my opinion, the Aera 760 is WAY better than any of its predecessors and well worth the investment.
Steve
Steve
Not disputing the value of the 760, I love mine also, just commenting on the upgrade nuances.
Figs
Hi Fred,
We must not be doing a good job of explaining the Aera 760 capabilities because it does all of those things and more. Since the Aera 760 has 2 RS-232 interfaces (plus Bluetooth and WiFi interfaces) instead of the single RS-232 interface in the 696, it makes it even easier to support things like an RS-232 interface to an external autopilot.
Below is a picture similar to the Aera 760 installation in my aircraft. I have it connected to a GDL 52R for ADS-B traffic and SXM weather and music. If for some reason the SXM weather subscription is not working, it will use the free ADS-B weather instead.
The GDL 52R receives and uses GPS data from the Aera 760, so connecting a GPS antenna to the GDL 52R is not required.
The audio panel interface is optional, but wiring the traffic/terrain/obstacle aural alerts into the audio panel or an intercom is easy to do. If you choose to take advantage of a SXM music subscription, that is also connected to one of the stereo music inputs on an optional audio panel or intercom from the GDL 52R and the music selection is controlled by the Aera 760.
Let us know if you have additional questions.
Steve
Nothing is ever quite as easy as seems.
I quit doing partial panel 'upgrades' a long time ago due to the same phenomenon, what starts off as the desire for a simple' upgrade creeps into much more than folks usually anticipate.
PS: the 760 is the best portable available IMO.
So I am understanding this correctly (for the 5th time)-
I have a Stratus transponder with ADS B out, I'm looking to upgrade that to ADS B in as well. The Stratus system is attractive because it uses the transponders existing antenna system. It then broadcasts the ADS B IN information via wifi, and now connects with Garmin Pilot (iPad app) as well as ForeFlight.
But according to the above, the Aera 760 WOULD NOT get ADS B IN Traffic and weather via the stratus?
Might just stick with the iPad in that case.
I have a Stratus transponder with ADS B out, I'm looking to upgrade that to ADS B in as well. The Stratus system is attractive because it uses the transponders existing antenna system. It then broadcasts the ADS B IN information via wifi, and now connects with Garmin Pilot (iPad app) as well as ForeFlight.
But according to the above, the Aera 760 WOULD NOT get ADS B IN Traffic and weather via the stratus?
Might just stick with the iPad in that case.
Add a GDL 51 then. If your Garmin transponder is a 330ES then you are not getting ADSB in from your transponder. In that case you would want the GDL 52. As a rule I go GDL 52 more often than GDL 50, and hardly bother with the GDL 51 unless the aircraft only needs SXM added to existing TIS-B and FIS-B (ADS-B weather and traffic in).
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I should’ve followed up. The 760 is working out great, a friend gave me a GDL 50. I now have ADSB in and out. I no longer fly IFR and feel that ADSB weather is sufficient. I do fly in the mountains, but early and good weather. Thanks to all for the encouragement and Stephen for the GDL 50.
