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Thinking of Changing Tailwheel Fork

This is my modification of a stock tail wheel…
 

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Ok, in the interest of illustrating multiple solutions, here's what I did with the stock yoke/fork (disregard the extra stuff on top - that was the locking feature)

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JD Air fork/yoke and Aviation Products wheel/tire.
The JD Air fork/yoke is a very mice piece of kit - I bought it last year. My 7 isn't flying yet but I'm looking forward to trying it. However I do have one problem:

There are two different versions of the tail spring with different aft end diameters (0.635” and 0.644”). According to the flyboys website, these are pre- and post-2017. However, I can’t see any distinction made on the Van’s website. I have a 2015 vintage tail spring which fits snugly with my 2015 vintage Vans yoke, but my tail spring is a little loose in the JD Air yoke (which sure enough has a 0.644” I.D.) People have suggested using shims but this seems a bit sub-optimal. But buying a new tailspring also seems like a painful solution, especially since it's expensive and might require drilling the aft holes. Looking for a good idea!

Andy
 
The JD Air fork/yoke is a very mice piece of kit - I bought it last year. My 7 isn't flying yet but I'm looking forward to trying it. However I do have one problem:

There are two different versions of the tail spring with different aft end diameters (0.635” and 0.644”). According to the flyboys website, these are pre- and post-2017. However, I can’t see any distinction made on the Van’s website. I have a 2015 vintage tail spring which fits snugly with my 2015 vintage Vans yoke, but my tail spring is a little loose in the JD Air yoke (which sure enough has a 0.644” I.D.) People have suggested using shims but this seems a bit sub-optimal. But buying a new tailspring also seems like a painful solution, especially since it's expensive and might require drilling the aft holes. Looking for a good idea!

Andy
I have a Condor 2 with the pneumatic tire. Honestly, I installed it pre phase 1 and have never tried the stock setup for comparison. Works good. smooth taxi, good visibility, and even though I have super loose chains it tracks well.

I don't have strong feelings about any of them. I just installed this one because I got a good deal on it used here on VAF, but it works great.
 
The JD Air fork/yoke is a very mice piece of kit - I bought it last year. My 7 isn't flying yet but I'm looking forward to trying it. However I do have one problem:

There are two different versions of the tail spring with different aft end diameters (0.635” and 0.644”). According to the flyboys website, these are pre- and post-2017. However, I can’t see any distinction made on the Van’s website. I have a 2015 vintage tail spring which fits snugly with my 2015 vintage Vans yoke, but my tail spring is a little loose in the JD Air yoke (which sure enough has a 0.644” I.D.) People have suggested using shims but this seems a bit sub-optimal. But buying a new tailspring also seems like a painful solution, especially since it's expensive and might require drilling the aft holes. Looking for a good idea!

Andy
Yes. It’s a bit on the loose side. Not normally an issue if the bolts are reamed to an interference fit, but I also filled the socket with JBWeld to shim out any possible movement. So far so good, but hardly a long term testimony yet.
 
What's the saying? My loss is your gain? 😆
Ha! The other saying that comes to mind is that even blind squirrel gets an acorn every now and then :)

FYI- As I recall, It didn't play well with your tailwheel spring and you had lots of shimmy that scrubbed all the tread off the tire. I don't know what the difference is, but there's no shimmy at all on mine. Even though my chains are quite loose it tracks more like a 172 than like the 170 I also fly. Really happy that I rolled the dice on it.
 
Ha! The other saying that comes to mind is that even blind squirrel gets an acorn every now and then :)

FYI- As I recall, It didn't play well with your tailwheel spring and you had lots of shimmy that scrubbed all the tread off the tire. I don't know what the difference is, but there's no shimmy at all on mine. Even though my chains are quite loose it tracks more like a 172 than like the 170 I also fly. Really happy that I rolled the dice on it.


Yep, major shimmy when I tried it. Glad it's working for you. I'm sure it has to do with the bend in the spring.
 
Yes. It’s a bit on the loose side. Not normally an issue if the bolts are reamed to an interference fit, but I also filled the socket with JBWeld to shim out any possible movement. So far so good, but hardly a long term testimony yet.
Couldn't this method put a lot of stress on the bolts which after many landings might lead to fatigue? I'm also wondering why the tail spring O.D. was increased - was it to reduce the likelihood of the tailwheel yoke hitting the bottom of the rudder on bumpy grass runways? If so that might be a good reason to use the newer part, despite the cost.
 
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