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From: "Gus Funnell" <[email protected]> Save Address
To: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:24:17 AM [View Source]
"To all RV 8 drivers" I sent this letter to Vans and thought I would sure their thoughts with y'all.
Don
Different canopies may behave differently, and of course the airspeed is
critical. At slow speeds you can definitely open it, at high speed, maybe not.
I am aware of at least one guy who exited an 8 in the air, so it is possible.
Alas, he did it without a parachute so we don't have a first hand report.
Vans
On 27 Oct 2007 at 1:08, Don Oberlander wrote:
Forwarded by: "Support" <support>
Forwarded to: gusf
Date forwarded: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:16:28 -0800
From: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:47 -0400
> Hi Van's,
>
> I'm sure you've probably been asked this many times before, but
> I'm new to RV's. I think I've read in " Van's Air Force" (in the
> last couple of months), that in an emergency situation in an RV 8 (
> ie engine failure-forced landing, or aircraft on fire),
>
> 1> you can open the canopy just before landing (engine failure), or
> you can pop it in the air (fire), in order to bail out, it may or
> may not take the vertical stabilizer off---- TO---- you can't open
> the canopy at all at flying speed-it simply won't open, ie a
> parachute is worthless. WHICH IS CORRECT??
>
> 2> Has anyone actually done any of this? I can't imagine the canopy
> wouldn't open in the air--I would "think" it "would" open with a
> bang and tear off.
>
> My thoughts were "in an emergency forced landing" pop it just before
> touch down, so as not to trapped inside, but I don't really know if
> my thinking is flawed or not after what I've read. I've got a big
> hunting knife inside which from my Navy training said "thrust
> straight up at the apex of the canopy and it well shatter". I guess
> if you flipped over and were upside down, you'd be trying to come
> out of the side of the fuselage with the hunting knife, assuming
> your head was still attached. (OK gruesome stuff, I know, but you
> have to plan ahead-no matter what).
>
> Anyway, you get the idea of what I'm trying to ask. What is or is
> not correct?
>
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From: "Gus Funnell" <[email protected]> Save Address
To: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:24:17 AM [View Source]
Different canopies may behave differently, and of course the airspeed is
critical. At slow speeds you can definitely open it, at high speed, maybe not.
I am aware of at least one guy who exited an 8 in the air, so it is possible.
Alas, he did it without a parachute so we don't have a first hand report.
Vans
On 27 Oct 2007 at 1:08, Don Oberlander wrote:
Forwarded by: "Support" <support>
Forwarded to: gusf
Date forwarded: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:16:28 -0800
From: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:47 -0400
> Hi Van's,
>
> I'm sure you've probably been asked this many times before, but
> I'm new to RV's. I think I've read in " Van's Air Force" (in the
> last couple of months), that in an emergency situation in an RV 8 (
> ie engine failure-forced landing, or aircraft on fire),
>
> 1> you can open the canopy just before landing (engine failure), or
> you can pop it in the air (fire), in order to bail out, it may or
> may not take the vertical stabilizer off---- TO---- you can't open
> the canopy at all at flying speed-it simply won't open, ie a
> parachute is worthless. WHICH IS CORRECT??
>
> 2> Has anyone actually done any of this? I can't imagine the canopy
> wouldn't open in the air--I would "think" it "would" open with a
> bang and tear off.
>
> My thoughts were "in an emergency forced landing" pop it just before
> touch down, so as not to trapped inside, but I don't really know if
> my thinking is flawed or not after what I've read. I've got a big
> hunting knife inside which from my Navy training said "thrust
> straight up at the apex of the canopy and it well shatter". I guess
> if you flipped over and were upside down, you'd be trying to come
> out of the side of the fuselage with the hunting knife, assuming
> your head was still attached. (OK gruesome stuff, I know, but you
> have to plan ahead-no matter what).
>
> Anyway, you get the idea of what I'm trying to ask. What is or is
> not correct?
>
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To: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:24:17 AM [View Source]
"To all RV 8 drivers" I sent this letter to Vans and thought I would sure their thoughts with y'all.
Don
Different canopies may behave differently, and of course the airspeed is
critical. At slow speeds you can definitely open it, at high speed, maybe not.
I am aware of at least one guy who exited an 8 in the air, so it is possible.
Alas, he did it without a parachute so we don't have a first hand report.
Vans
On 27 Oct 2007 at 1:08, Don Oberlander wrote:
Forwarded by: "Support" <support>
Forwarded to: gusf
Date forwarded: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:16:28 -0800
From: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:47 -0400
> Hi Van's,
>
> I'm sure you've probably been asked this many times before, but
> I'm new to RV's. I think I've read in " Van's Air Force" (in the
> last couple of months), that in an emergency situation in an RV 8 (
> ie engine failure-forced landing, or aircraft on fire),
>
> 1> you can open the canopy just before landing (engine failure), or
> you can pop it in the air (fire), in order to bail out, it may or
> may not take the vertical stabilizer off---- TO---- you can't open
> the canopy at all at flying speed-it simply won't open, ie a
> parachute is worthless. WHICH IS CORRECT??
>
> 2> Has anyone actually done any of this? I can't imagine the canopy
> wouldn't open in the air--I would "think" it "would" open with a
> bang and tear off.
>
> My thoughts were "in an emergency forced landing" pop it just before
> touch down, so as not to trapped inside, but I don't really know if
> my thinking is flawed or not after what I've read. I've got a big
> hunting knife inside which from my Navy training said "thrust
> straight up at the apex of the canopy and it well shatter". I guess
> if you flipped over and were upside down, you'd be trying to come
> out of the side of the fuselage with the hunting knife, assuming
> your head was still attached. (OK gruesome stuff, I know, but you
> have to plan ahead-no matter what).
>
> Anyway, you get the idea of what I'm trying to ask. What is or is
> not correct?
>
****E-MAIL PRIVILEGED INFORMATION****
From: "Gus Funnell" <[email protected]> Save Address
To: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:24:17 AM [View Source]
Different canopies may behave differently, and of course the airspeed is
critical. At slow speeds you can definitely open it, at high speed, maybe not.
I am aware of at least one guy who exited an 8 in the air, so it is possible.
Alas, he did it without a parachute so we don't have a first hand report.
Vans
On 27 Oct 2007 at 1:08, Don Oberlander wrote:
Forwarded by: "Support" <support>
Forwarded to: gusf
Date forwarded: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:16:28 -0800
From: "Don Oberlander" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Getting out of an RV 8 in an emergency
Date sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:08:47 -0400
> Hi Van's,
>
> I'm sure you've probably been asked this many times before, but
> I'm new to RV's. I think I've read in " Van's Air Force" (in the
> last couple of months), that in an emergency situation in an RV 8 (
> ie engine failure-forced landing, or aircraft on fire),
>
> 1> you can open the canopy just before landing (engine failure), or
> you can pop it in the air (fire), in order to bail out, it may or
> may not take the vertical stabilizer off---- TO---- you can't open
> the canopy at all at flying speed-it simply won't open, ie a
> parachute is worthless. WHICH IS CORRECT??
>
> 2> Has anyone actually done any of this? I can't imagine the canopy
> wouldn't open in the air--I would "think" it "would" open with a
> bang and tear off.
>
> My thoughts were "in an emergency forced landing" pop it just before
> touch down, so as not to trapped inside, but I don't really know if
> my thinking is flawed or not after what I've read. I've got a big
> hunting knife inside which from my Navy training said "thrust
> straight up at the apex of the canopy and it well shatter". I guess
> if you flipped over and were upside down, you'd be trying to come
> out of the side of the fuselage with the hunting knife, assuming
> your head was still attached. (OK gruesome stuff, I know, but you
> have to plan ahead-no matter what).
>
> Anyway, you get the idea of what I'm trying to ask. What is or is
> not correct?
>
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