Wing wiring grumbling

[Alphalpha]

I have said it before but here goes again. It would be nice to know what the wiring intentions are for the supplied looms.
So far the outboard end seems to be tip lights, then landing/taxi lights. Then on the left side a hook up for Garmin products (which is absurdly biased and unprofessional on Vans part). Then inboard near the outboard end of the tank is a connector that I am not to sure about. And lastly, there is no apparent routing for the fuel sensor through the wing main connector.

I will be repurposing the Garmin connector to feed products that come from companies who practice civil and courteous customer service.

 

[rocketman1988]

I have said it before but here goes again. It would be nice to know what the wiring intentions are for the supplied looms.
So far the outboard end seems to be tip lights, then landing/taxi lights. Then on the left side a hook up for Garmin products (which is absurdly biased and unprofessional on Vans part). Then inboard near the outboard end of the tank is a connector that I am not to sure about. And lastly, there is no apparent routing for the fuel sensor through the wing main connector.

I will be repurposing the Garmin connector to feed products that come from companies who practice civil and courteous customer service.

I have had nothing but "civil and courteous customer service" from Garmin for a decade...

 

[Alphalpha]

I have had nothing but "civil and courteous customer service" from Garmin for a decade...

I have had the exact opposite experience and have several clients who have experienced the same.

 

[rocketman1988]

I have had the exact opposite experience and have several clients who have experienced the same.

Interesting.

We’ve been using certified and experimental Garmin products for years, including two flight schools and many other EAB builders. Never had a problem.

I will say that the flat rate repair can either be a winner or loser depending on what’s wrong with the unit but have always had good experiences with customer service…

 

[Desert Rat]

"...Then on the left side a hook up for Garmin products (which is absurdly biased and unprofessional on Vans part)..."

It's probably unrealistic to think that the majority of folks who are buying kits share your dislike for Garmin. They're the dominant supplier in this space by a huge margin and undoubtedly will be the avionics platform for the majority of people building RV15's. I don't think it's bias for Vans to provision for the largest segment of their customer base...

 

[Richard Connell]

Nobody’s forcing you to install brand X.
Heaven forbid you’d have to do your own design or wiring for an experimental.

Garmin aren’t perfect. Nobody is. But they provide an extremely sophisticated and capable product which they mercifully allow to be installed by people of wildly varying skill levels. Only need a brief peruse of VAF to see that. So it’s not surprising that not everybody’s “customer service experience” is the same.

 

[N8DAV8R]

I have said it before but here goes again. It would be nice to know what the wiring intentions are for the supplied looms.
So far the outboard end seems to be tip lights, then landing/taxi lights. Then on the left side a hook up for Garmin products (which is absurdly biased and unprofessional on Vans part). Then inboard near the outboard end of the tank is a connector that I am not to sure about. And lastly, there is no apparent routing for the fuel sensor through the wing main connector.

I will be repurposing the Garmin connector to feed products that come from companies who practice civil and courteous customer service.

Landing and taxi lights, magnetometer, pitot/heat and AOA.

The magnetometer is the Garmin product. That may or may not be the limits of the Garmin products that the harness is designed for, we just don't know. You should expect more of this. You are building a kit that is developed under an SLSA/ELSA framework which means that a number of decisions regarding components will be made and built in.

 

[wirejock]

Can you delete the wiring harness from the order and run your own?
If a builder wants Dynon, seems like they have to delete it.

 

[Alphalpha]

Nobody’s forcing you to install brand X.
Heaven forbid you’d have to do your own design or wiring for an experimental.

Garmin aren’t perfect. Nobody is. But they provide an extremely sophisticated and capable product which they mercifully allow to be installed by people of wildly varying skill levels. Only need a brief peruse of VAF to see that. So it’s not surprising that not everybody’s “customer service experience” is the same.

As I said I will be repurposing those wires. In my opinion Dynon makes superior products and usually doesn’t need an external magnetometer.

Garmin has behaved badly in a number of cases, in my direct experience. As an American who is certified by America as an experienced expert in aviation I see it as my obligation to give people a reason to consider other options and I stand by my sentiment that Vans is doing themselves and their customers a disservice by doing this.