How about being in Honolulu, and seeing some guys with 'VANS" tee shirts on?
So like a dummy, I went up to one and asked what kind of RV they had
![Eek! :eek: :eek:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
( I had on a TS Flightlines shirt). The reaction was a blank stare. They had NO idea what I was talking about.
Tom