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TKS EXPRESSION OF INTEREST

kearney

kearney

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At KOSH I spoke to the CAV System Ltd people about a TKS (anti ice) system for the RV10. The end result was that they would consider developing such a system if there was enough interest to justify development.

To that end, who would be interested in such a system - the sticker price would probably be around $30K. At this point, it is just an expression of interest (serious) that is required. If this moves forward, I would expect a deposit would be required.

I do request that this thread be kept clean and any debate of the merits of such a system be confined to a separate thread(s).

Cheers

Les
 
Interested, but would want to understand what level of airframe ice testing TKS would do during development.
 
TKS Redux

Thus far 16 people have indicated serious interest in a TKS system for the RV10. Given the capital investment in developing such a system, CAV Systems would need a least 50-100 people to sign on with deposits to make the project worthwhile.

I did get a couple of answers to some of the questions posed these being:

The system would encompass the prop and the windscreen.

The TKS fluid is not corrosive. The most corrosive component in the fluid is water.

The system is an anti-ice not de-ice system. That being said. It is required to handle ice accumulated for two minutes before it is turned on. The theory being that the pilot should have at least a couple of minutes to recognize that ice is an issue.
 
kearney said:
At KOSH I spoke to the CAV System Ltd people about a TKS (anti ice) system for the RV10. The end result was that they would consider developing such a system if there was enough interest to justify development.

To that end, who would be interested in such a system - the sticker price would probably be around $30K. At this point, it is just an expression of interest (serious) that is required. If this moves forward, I would expect a deposit would be required.

I do request that this thread be kept clean and any debate of the merits of such a system be confined to a separate thread(s).

Cheers

Les
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Interested in learning more about their tests methodology and requirements. If (when) CAV has positive expectations, I'd be interested. There needs to be a sharing of commitment - RV10 owners willing to commit deposits - while CAV documents their commitments to testing standards and sharing that information along the way - much like Van's does when developing new RV models.
 
$30k acquisition cost, losing 100+lbs of load, and $30+ a gallon for fluid? Probably a pass for me.

Also, my hangar mate had a cirrus with the TKS system and it weeps in the hangar, too. Makes a mess…
 
Ten4Al said:
Interested in learning more about their tests methodology and requirements. If (when) CAV has positive expectations, I'd be interested. There needs to be a sharing of commitment - RV10 owners willing to commit deposits - while CAV documents their commitments to testing standards and sharing that information along the way - much like Van's does when developing new RV models.
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You've responded to a 3 year old thread
 
Maybe, a Piezzo Electric De-Icing method could be applied in small GA in future.. It's already in use on some commercial planes.

Pros:
-low weight added
-low energy required

Cons:
-cannot be installed on wet leading edges (fuel tank)
this part of the wing would require a different method (goodrich or TKS)
-lifespan of materials under frequency stress?
-elevator horns would probably require a heat source anyway

-additionally, a heated prop and some sort of windshield de-icing method would be required

Vibration de-icing method with piezoelectric actuators - Extrica

This work presents the analytic and experimental research of a vibration de-icing method for aircrafts with piezoelectric transducer as the actuator. The maximum displacement of the structure will be achieved when excited at the natural frequencies. The vibration induces shear stress at the...
www.extrica.com
 
I find it curious that there are folks here that do not trust the airframe design engineers but are more than willing to fly into a weather condition that can easily exceed the performance and structural integrity of our aircraft.

Just an observation.
 
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