...from Van's site, "The canopy remains unpainted because we soon will be replacing the prototype canopy with a more attractive pre-production version."RV7ator said:Wonder why the canopy frame is white? Think maybe, oh-my-gosh finally, Van's ran out of yellow?
John Siebold
Boise, ID
Oh no, not that again! Better getcher flame suit on.Gary Bricker said:Well the nose gear might be improved.
DR, did you say this.......(a nice size for the forums is 700 pixels wide) And then post this 1024X472 pic so we can scan right..... then left..... then right.... till we get to a new page? But thanks for the picture. I thought they were going to recycle that airframe with new wings, canopy and nose gear??DeltaRomeo said:
What, you don't have two 1280x1024 monitors? <g>.gasman said:DR, did you say this.......(a nice size for the forums is 700 pixels wide) And then post this 1024X472 pic so we can scan right..... then left..... then right.... till we get to a new page? But thanks for the picture. I thought they were going to recycle that airframe with new wings, canopy and nose gear??
No, but it looks great on my dual 1600x1200 monitors!DeltaRomeo said:What, you don't have two 1280x1024 monitors?
dr
Looks fine on my 1920x1200DeltaRomeo said:What, you don't have two 1280x1024 monitors? <g>.
OK, you got me on that one <g>.
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InsideOut said:My hunch is they are getting it presentable and will take it to Oshkosh. I bet we see the new canopy along with wheel pants.
DeltaRomeo said:
rv72004 said:The idea of a competition to choose a paint scheme is really good. EJ
Phyrcooler said:Just in case the few of us are way off base... maybe someone more forum savy could start a poll - "Do you like the new paint job on the RV-12 or suggest it be rethought?".
Yes, RV's market themselves - if you are talking about all the other RV's. Van's smokes the competition. However, remember this is being designed to compete as an LSA. Performance is restricted. 120 kts. That's it. They will all claim very similar performance. The "RV feel" isn't experienced until they get the bird in the air. When you walk by the Van's booth and the CFO wrinkles her nose and says "that one is ugly"... it is going to be just a little bit harder to make the sale.hydroguy2 said:I betting they could have painted it "sh**bricklebrown". Once Van gets the performance and numbers he wants/needs, the S-12 will hit the market. Shortly after that, you will be on a list to get one. RV's market themselves
uhhuh35 said:Well I don't think it looks bad.
Huh?. There are few airplanes out there that look better than the RV series, especially in the kit-built market.Skyhi said:Van is not really noted for aviation aesthetic...
Well, first, have you priced an Evektor lately? $100k USD isn't going to buy you a lot beyond the basics...RudiGreyling said:Pardon my posting pictures of another airplane here, but it is for comparitve reasons...here is what a nice paint job can do! But at $90-100K Ready to fly the evektor sportstar is a bit out of my reach. I really hope that Van can make the final product look as Sexy as this little beauty of a sport plane.
elfiero said:OK, I'm going out on a limb here and make a prediction- RELATIVE to the other pulled rivit kit planes that can be flown by a sport pilot....
Well... as far as paint jobs... I think this red one is much better. I am not however real impressed with the "Stars" all over the other two. And what's with that huge bubble canopy? It looks like there is about 18" of headroom!! Now THAT is ugly!RudiGreyling said:HI Guys,
I really hope that Van can make the final product look as Sexy as this little beauty of a sport plane.
Now be honest if you were the average Joe pilot at Oshkosh looking to buy an airplane, which one will pull your attention??
Regards
Rudi
Ah, yes, but inside, the canopy is WONDERFUL. The reason it is a big bubble is that the SportStar is based on the Evektor Eurostar, which has a narrow fuselage.Phyrcooler said:Most of these LSA's suffer from the "Bulging cockpit" look due to the efforts to keep weight down. The remaining fuselage is kept trim, causing the canopy to look a bit bug-like. That Evektor's canopy is terrible! Hopefully Van's new RV-12 canopy will not suffer too heavily from this.
the_other_dougreeves said:Well, first, have you priced an Evektor lately? $100k USD isn't going to buy you a lot beyond the basics...
Airflow tuft testing of the airframe showed undesirable flow under some conditions at the wing root/fuselage intersection -- not unusual for low wing airplanes. We devoted considerable time and effort installing and testing various wing root filets in an attempt to improve lift in this region and thus lower stall speed. The airflow was improved somewhat, but there was no measurable improvement in stall speed.