All good news, really. Toe brakes are not the norm in LSA, but are certainly the "RV Way", as is the castering nosewheel.Steve said:The stick mounted hand brake was replaced by conventional toe brakes. The steerable nose wheel was replaced with a castering type. This added about 3 inches of leg room.
Kits may be available later this year.
Build time is estimated to be between 800 to 1000 hours.
The rivet holes are pre-punched to final size. No drilling, deburring, and dimpling required.
A quick build kit option is NOT being considered.
Estimated finished cost is between 40K - 45K.
The airframe is designed only for the Rotax engine.
Steve
WOW... This may take it out of the running for me. I have been looking primarily at the LSA's - as the performance parameters were acceptable, along with a somewhat lesser cost, and primarily a much faster build due to pull rivets, along with "quickbuild" fuselage and wings. Unfortunately my time is, and will remain a premium for a few more years. I am hoping for about an 18 month build time max. Other craft such as the 601XL quickbuild can be constructed in about 500 according to their builders. (But not wild about the 601). 1,000 hours equates to about 2 1/2 years at my realistic build time estimate. That would be taking me closer into an RV-9 quick-build range. Be interesting to see if RAN's does a quickbuild.Steve said:Build time is estimated to be between 800 to 1000 hours.
The rivet holes are pre-punched to final size. No drilling, deburring, and dimpling required.
A quick build kit option is NOT being considered.
Steve
LOL -Yeah... but you haven't seen my schedule! (Remember, I am in the busiest unit in the state... and there are unfortunately whole weeks where I will get nothing done due to work.) My numbers aren't precise, and admittedly probably conservative. While I would hope and plan to work more hours, I look at an average of 8 hours a week. Just trying to low-ball my hours so I don't have an unreasonable expectation of the project.Mike S said:Now wait just a minute here Chief.
Do a little math.
You said you want to be done in 18 months.
O.K., if Vans high number of 1000 hours is used, 18 months is 78 weeks, and that is less than 13 hours a week.
Figure Van doesn't know what he is talking about, it will take half again as long--------and go for 1500 hours build time, and you get less than 20 hours a week.
I think you can fit that into your schedule, if you try.
Steve said:The stick mounted hand brake was replaced by conventional toe brakes. The steerable nose wheel was replaced with a castering type. This added about 3 inches of leg room.
Kits may be available later this year.
Build time is estimated to be between 800 to 1000 hours.
The rivet holes are pre-punched to final size. No drilling, deburring, and dimpling required.
A quick build kit option is NOT being considered.
Estimated finished cost is between 40K - 45K.
The airframe is designed only for the Rotax engine.
Steve
The J3300 would be an interesting choice for the -9. Might be a bit underpowered, though.bonanza36 said:I attended the Jabiru forum @ Oshkosh. Pete Krotje said said that Jabiru anticipated offering a firewall forward kit for the RV12. Or did he say the RV9? can't remember. Anyone else there?
Good to hear that Jabiru is on the job here. I think this could be a good market for the J3300 if you had a good FWF package.ceuh1v said:We will be doing a FWF for the RV-12 as soon as we get the final details of firewall layout, thrust line, CG limits, etc.
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
Might require a longer nose - which may make the RV-12 look better. It will be nice to have another engine option - especially the Jab. I would have to assume that putting out more max HP, it will really climb out on initial, before you have to throttle back. And, developing more HP at say 75%, will probably yield an even higher cruise speed for those of us NOT building the RV-12 as an LSA. For the LSA types, it may have to be really under propped (is that the right term?) and would climb like a rocket...ceuh1v said:We will be doing a FWF for the RV-12 as soon as we get the final details of firewall layout, thrust line, CG limits, etc.
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
It would not require a longer nose. The Jabiru is heavier than the Rotax. I had to shorten the nose of my bi-plane to accommodate the 3300.Phyrcooler said:Might require a longer nose - which may make the RV-12 look better.
DJ
Ah - my error... I thought the Jabiru was lighter than the Rotax and all its trappings. Thanks for the clarification.Mel said:It would not require a longer nose. The Jabiru is heavier than the Rotax. I had to shorten the nose of my bi-plane to accommodate the 3300.