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OSH Departure

h&jeuropa

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Departed OSH Thursday morning without problems. But like previous years, I struggled to complete my Before Takeoff Checklist. I don't want to do a mag check in HBC (and I need to get the engine warm first too) but there doesn't seem to be an opportunity to do it while taxiing to the runway and once at the departure point is too late. I'm curious when others do their runup and takeoff checklist.

Thanks

Jim Butcher
 
Departed OSH Thursday morning without problems. But like previous years, I struggled to complete my Before Takeoff Checklist. I don't want to do a mag check in HBC (and I need to get the engine warm first too) but there doesn't seem to be an opportunity to do it while taxiing to the runway and once at the departure point is too late. I'm curious when others do their runup and takeoff checklist.

Thanks

Jim Butcher

I check controls free and clear before engine start, and set trim and flaps immediately after engine start. I do mag and prop checks while taxiing.
 
I check controls free and clear before engine start, and set trim and flaps immediately after engine start. I do mag and prop checks while taxiing.
This is the way I've always done it at big airports. Check everything you can before start, then everything else but the runup before you start rolling. Mags and props on the roll, assuming you've got the empty taxiway space and mental bandwidth to do it safely.

I've never flown into Oshkosh, but I've been to a fair number of class C airports and back in the day, a fair few class B airports as well. It makes everybody's life easier if you're ready to go when you get to the end.
 
Departed OSH Thursday morning without problems. But like previous years, I struggled to complete my Before Takeoff Checklist. I don't want to do a mag check in HBC (and I need to get the engine warm first too) but there doesn't seem to be an opportunity to do it while taxiing to the runway and once at the departure point is too late. I'm curious when others do their runup and takeoff checklist.

Thanks

Jim Butcher
Obviously you left early, at 9:30 it took us an hour as they switched runways from 27 to 9 due to wind shifts right when we were about 6 or so from the 27 threshold.
Great event and weather this year was the best in years, actually returned home with an undamaged tent :D
Figs
 
Like others, I do my checks on the roll to the runway. And even at Oshkosh - if you really have a problem you can get out of the line, all you gotta do is key up your mike and ask. Trust me, they DON'T WANT a sick airplane trying to take off at Oshkosh. I waited a good long time this morning behind the DC3 doing their checks on the taxiway, and had to remind myself of the age of the equipment and how careful they were being because of that, it's all good.
 
I usually take advantage of a pause in the line, like the DC-3 runup (yeah, give those guys a healthy spacing), stop, angle slightly (away from the crowd! (saw a Corsair blow a bunch of stuff over one year)) and do the mag/prop check. Like others have said, do as much as you can before you start taxiing (and don't forget to enter and activate your flight plan on the navigator), and use a checklist! Very easy to get distracted in the rush and forget something, like flaps.

And follow the NOTAM. Watched a Cherokee take off on 36 Thursday and go straight out, blowing through the arrival pattern for 27.
 
And follow the NOTAM. Watched a Cherokee take off on 36 Thursday and go straight out, blowing through the arrival pattern for 27.
And this one; today a buddy of mine watched a T-34 depart from the taxiway/closed runway 13… look up N20M flight track from today, it’ll blow your mind.

There are just so many idiots flying in/out of Oshkosh… yesterday morning I was watching the departing tracks on ADSB Exchange and saw multiple planes depart 27 and within a couple of miles turn south, cutting right through the arrival stream over Fisk at 15-1800’ MSL. How nobody traded paint I have no idea. It’s like these “pilots” didn’t even read the NOTAM, or tried to read but don’t comprehend it, or they just don’t care… there’s just no awareness of anything else going on around them. I really, really dislike guys like that.
 
And this one; today a buddy of mine watched a T-34 depart from the taxiway/closed runway 13… look up N20M flight track from today, it’ll blow your mind.

There are just so many idiots flying in/out of Oshkosh… yesterday morning I was watching the departing tracks on ADSB Exchange and saw multiple planes depart 27 and within a couple of miles turn south, cutting right through the arrival stream over Fisk at 15-1800’ MSL. How nobody traded paint I have no idea. It’s like these “pilots” didn’t even read the NOTAM, or tried to read but don’t comprehend it, or they just don’t care… there’s just no awareness of anything else going on around them. I really, really dislike guys like that.

The guys screwing up the 27 departure probably wouldn’t understand the “why” without a long explanation.
 
We departed at 7am Thursday morning and experienced the same rushed departure. We taxi'd out of HBP and were marshalled towards 18L. I quickly realized we were #5 for take-off and they were launching quickly from the taxiway that turns into 18L. We pulled off to the side of the taxiway and did a quick runup and ran through my before take-off checklist. Even though I was pretty quick with it all, the tower called us to move forward and line up an wait, as we were then #2. Got out quick, which was nice compared to years past! It would be nice if some of the marshallers that lead up to the departure runway had a sign on their paddles that said "Complete run-up now".
 
We departed at 7am Thursday morning and experienced the same rushed departure. We taxi'd out of HBP and were marshalled towards 18L. I quickly realized we were #5 for take-off and they were launching quickly from the taxiway that turns into 18L. We pulled off to the side of the taxiway and did a quick runup and ran through my before take-off checklist. Even though I was pretty quick with it all, the tower called us to move forward and line up an wait, as we were then #2. Got out quick, which was nice compared to years past! It would be nice if some of the marshallers that lead up to the departure runway had a sign on their paddles that said "Complete run-up now".
Thanks Trevor, that's about what we have done but having a spot to do it would be much better. When we got home i realized that I hadn't started my data logging and I flew with the fuel selector not in the normal position all because we were rushed to take off on 18L.
 
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