Just wondering if anyone had a better recommendation about music inputs. I am planning on using the 1/8" stereo plug jack going into the PS-3000 for my ipod input.
Thanks,
Does the PS 6000 have the required pre-amp gain to allow me to run the Ipod through it?
I have not tried it yet.
I guess it wouldn't be that hard to build a pre-amp between the Ipod and the music input if needs be?
Thanks
Frank
I have a PS 6000 with no pre-amp between the iPod and input, and it works great! It was really quiet for some reason when I used a stereo to mono plug, but when i removed it, it works great. Maybe the iPod is intelligent enough to know if it should be in stereo vs. mono. I get great sounds through the PS 6000 and all of my stuff is wired up for mono.
Really shouldn't use a mono-to-stereo plug in a stereo-to-mono mode. You end up shorting the two stereo output signals together and could damage the device, probably why the audio output was so low. If you must drive a mono system with a stereo source and don't have a mixer device/circuit, use only one of the stereo channel outputs, I think maybe the left channel may be recommended but not sure.
This won't work without a pre-amp, at least I couldn't get it to work on my PM3000. I even sent my unit back to the factory for an upgrade that was supposed to allow it but that didn't work either. The audio technical folks will chime in but the power output from the iPod is pretty low and won't drive your headsets with much volume.
I know this isn't the most cost effective way to solve this, but I bought new headsets that have a music input jack at the battery box. I use a splitter to drive both front and back headsets and the music is very loud.
If I had it to do over again, I'd get an audio panel with a built in amplifier. If you have to pre-amp the signal anyway, might as well get the benefit of an audio panel.
Cool...Turns out I have a Ps 7000....Haven't tried the IPOD...I can't seem to get the cell phone to work...I hear the cell phone in my headset but can't seem to "transmit".
Any ideas?
Frank
H'mmm, guess I need to get out more, didn't know there was such a thing. Can someone explain how this device works or how it is wired?
I've just been a lurker on this thread, but I've been looking at replacing my Sigtronics SPA-400 with one better suited to hook my iPod into. My wife declared that we need music in our RV-6. I was looking at the Sigtronics SPA-4S (easy plug & play replacement for me), but Mark's help here has steered me towards the PS line. (Well done.)I will stay with you on this until it is successfully resolved, my name is riding on it.
. My wife declared that we need music in our RV-6. .
Dear Frank:
First, lets confirm you have a cellphone that will work with our system. If you go to www.ps-engineering.com/pma8000b.shtml and then click on the link titled "Cellphones" that is in the text, you'll get a download of the phones that we have tested and work and ones that don't.
The good news is that the majority of phones that have a 3/32 inch jack on them that is intended to connect to a handsfree headset (earset) work very well.
The specialty cellphones unfortunately, decided not to used the standard 3 lead system (tip, ring, and sleeve) but have a four wire circuit. Those don't work.
Anyway, if you could check and see if your phone is listed, I'm confident that we'll get it to work.
Thanks
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering
First off mark thanks for monitoring the list and providing help. I agree with Bryan this makes a huge difference to existing and future builders in considering their equipment purchase.
I have an LG phone VX4400..This does not apper on the "Will" work list but it does not appear on the "will not" list either.
it comes with a standard 3/32nd plug and the patch cable I have came with a Ligthspeed headset.
I have a PS 7000 intercom that i wired a cellphone jack to.
When I plug it in I can hear the dial tone and hear the person answer but they cannot hear me..Of course they always hang up before I have a chance to fiddle with the buttons on my intercom..Some people are SO rude..
Any ideas?
Thanks
Frank
I've just been a lurker on this thread, but I've been looking at replacing my Sigtronics SPA-400 with one better suited to hook my iPod into. My wife declared that we need music in our RV-6. I was looking at the Sigtronics SPA-4S (easy plug & play replacement for me), but Mark's help here has steered me towards the PS line. (Well done.)
It looks like the PM501 will let me do mono-music with all the proper muting/soft-muting and it's cheaper. Is there a PM501 to SPA-400 pre-wired harness anywhere? Easy enough if there's not...
Hmmm...gotta make sure it'll fit in the same knob & switch holes in my panel though.
EDIT: it looks like the PM501 center & outer holes will match the ones for my existing SPA-400. The other 2 (where the screws go that hold it in place) are about 0.04 off each. Probably close enough to work fine.
This won't work without a pre-amp, at least I couldn't get it to work on my PM3000. I even sent my unit back to the factory for an upgrade that was supposed to allow it but that didn't work either. The audio technical folks will chime in but the power output from the iPod is pretty low and won't drive your headsets with much volume.
!
I use an LG UX8300 with very good results (Verizon), which gives me a good feeling about your unit.
What type of interface cable are you use?
I'll bet when you built your harness you paid close attention to the wiring to the jack that is installed in your aircraft that is depicted on the wiring diagram. You might want to double check that.
Finally, here's the BIG question, did you configure the PMA7000B so that Com 3 is set up to be your cellphone input? Here's a test, press the Com 3 XMT pushbutton, does it FLASH QUICKLY?
If not, there's the problem. You will find specific instructions in the installation manual to make Com 3 NOT a Com radio input but rather a cellular telephone input.
Let me know what you find.
Thanks
Mark
Dear Randy:
We both must be missing something on this one.
In a proper install, ALL iPods that we have tried (and we have tried just about every one since Apple started shipping these little jewels) and we have demonstrated more than enough volume.
Question, could you have accidentally purchased the cable the interfaces your iPod to the PM3000 from Radio Shack and got hold of the one that is really meant for camcorders? If so, there is a 10:1 divider in that particular cable.
We have seen this many a times.
When we returned the unit to you, it would have had to meet our specifications, as stated on the yellow tag we included with the return of your PM3000. This document states that we have tested the system and it met all specifications, including music volume.
I will stay with you on this until it is successfully resolved, my name is riding on it.
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering, Inc.
865-988-9800
[email protected]
Okay Mark, I'll take you up on this.
If you have a moment, can you go to this link http://www.pflanzer-aviation.com/PDF%20Files/Intercom.pdf. This is the wiring diagram for my intercomm. Let's make sure that I haven't done something that I souldn't have. I do have some Aux voice imputs wired in so maybe these are affecting things.
I use LightSPEED 30-3G headsets and my Rocket is wired exactly according to this diagram. I look forward to your response.
The patch cable has a 3/32nd plug at one end and a 1/8th at the other...Cable came with my Lightspeed headphones.
Interestingly I get the same trouble when I plug the cell directly into the lightspeed headphones...I swapped the cable no difference.
I then plugged in a cheesy "handsfree" headset into the phone and that worked fine..So i assumed the phone must be OK.
So I got a new cable...same effect...Hmm...
As to the Ps7000 I did press the com 3 transmit and it does flash quickly.
I'm wondering if this patch cable supply is wired right?..
Frank
Hi Randy:
I don't see the audio return line for the iPod. Without that, you will get the exact same results as you are seeing. You will need a Left Channel, Right Channel, and an audio return.
I didn't do this, a "professional" radio shop pre-wired this to handle multiple audio inputs from the GNS430 and EFIS. What is the proper way to connect these inputs?Also, what you have done at the Aircraft Radio input is something I just have to tell you that you should not do. Of course you can, it's and experimental, but it is a bad practice. Input impedance will no longer be 510 ohms and that may have effects on these audio lines.
Nope.(Did you install the Axillary Mic and Headphone jacks?)
As PS Engineering said, you should be fine. I don't mean to disagree with anyone, but just in general, there can be a big impedance mismatch. Other intercoms with out a good pre-amplified aux input, like the PS Eng unit might have, can suffer from impedance mismatch, making Aux input source volume too low, even with the volume full.Just wondering if anyone had a better recommendation about music inputs. I am planning on using the 1/8" stereo plug jack going into the PS-3000 for my iPod input. Thanks,
Great, thanks for the input. I'll check into them.Dear Brian:
I could NOT recommend the PM501 for you, it will not give you the results you so richly deserve in your RV-6. The PM501 is an intercom with just on VOX circuit, does not mute music during aircraft radio reception and is not designed to work in loud aircraft (no offense).
Either the PM1000II (part #11922 and is only about $70 more) or the PM3000A (11931a and this one provides 2 unswitched inputs) would be much better for you.
Okay, I'll try this. What pin does it connect to?
I didn't do this, a "professional" radio shop pre-wired this to handle multiple audio inputs from the GNS430 and EFIS. What is the proper way to connect these inputs?
Nope.
Thanks for your quick feedback Mark.
Great about the flashing Com 3 buttons when pressed, good stuff.
If you want, you are more than welcomed to send your phone into us and we'll take it to our bench and determine what is wrong and what can be done. Just let me know and I'll give you an RMA number.
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering
Dear Brian:
I could NOT recommend the PM501 for you, it will not give you the results you so richly deserve in your RV-6. The PM501 is an intercom with just on VOX circuit, does not mute music during aircraft radio reception and is not designed to work in loud aircraft (no offense).
Either the PM1000II (part #11922 and is only about $70 more) or the PM3000A (11931a and this one provides 2 unswitched inputs) would be much better for you.
There are so many reasons to go with either one of those two I don't know where to start. So I'll just say trust me......or better yet, you can look at them at www.ps-engineering.com/pm1000.shtml and www.ps-engineering.com/pm3000.shtml
The PM501 just does not provide the value as these other two. Why do we sell it? Because there are those who we never get a chance to talk with, and they will make their buying decision on price (typically these pilots are are extremely price conscience) but want to buy PS Engineering because they hear good things about us.
Besides, the faceplate of the 1000II and 3000 are anodized aluminum (instead of a vinyl decal) and will cover up all of the existing holes used to mount the SPA400.
Finally, and this is going to sound harsh, but I really need to be frank with you, if you are not planning on building a brand new harness for any of our intercoms, you will be better off with staying with the SPA400. The harnesses are in now way compatible and you will NOT be happy with our intercom's performance unless you wire it exactly as our prints.
This in the long run will keep both of us happy.
Hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering
Thanks Frank for installing our PM501. I'm glad to hear it is performing for you. Here's the deal, the PM501 has only one VOX circuit. When one microphone circuit is opened, the other microphone will open, bring more noise into the intercom conversation.
The other potential issue is that there is only one trip level (one VOX adjustment) so you need to set the trip level for the more sensitive microphone, creating a situation for clipping of the first syllables for the person who has the less sensitive microphone.
Then there are the cosmetics. The PM501 uses a vinyl decal where the PM1000II and PM3000A uses an anodized metal faceplate.
Again, I'm very appreciative you trusting us with your audio and I'm delighted to hear that you are satisfied with your PM501.
Sincerely,
Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering