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Life after flying

AN23

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My son (A-10 and now Delta) and I sold our much loved RV-8 last month to a couple of young Delta pilots. Vic did the pre-buy for them and I've got to say, the three of them made what could have been a very, very sad day somehow better.

At 73 going on 74 years old, I just knew it was time. Instead of looking both ways once at a stop sign and then deciding and acting, I caught myself looking several times and the decision to go just seemed to take more time to calculate. Arthritis is also making just getting the airplane out of the hangar painful. Climbing in to it is yet another hurdle. Some days, I would drive 70 miles roundtrip to the hangar, fully expecting to fly, to just sit and look at that beautiful RV-8. It just hurt too much to move it. Several years back, I quit flying the P-51 because I recognized that the airplane deserved, no REQUIRED, a pilot that didn't suffer from the "stop sign" syndrome. Recently I realized the same applies to the RV. Age was not improving my decision making and flying skills no matter how much I wanted to believe the decline wasn't happening. Make no mistake, I was still flying the RV ok, the "sharpness" just wasn't as sharp.

I have enjoyed over 60 years and 15,000 hours of flying. It's been my life and passion. I've flown some fabulous airplanes including Stearman, P-51, T-38, Lears, etc. but the RV-8 ranks as one of my all-time favorites. Making the decision that it was time to quit was both easy and tough......easy in that I realized I wasn't that young, second lieutenant any more but tough from the mental aspect of asking myself, "What in the hell am I going to do now?"

Well, I'm happy to say there is upside to this decision. First, the airplane will be well taken care of by the new owners and Vic will be handling major maintenance and inspections on it. Next, after just spending nearly $30k on an unexpected engine IRAN, it feels good to be out from under any looming, unexpected financial liability. My wife and I never had a honeymoon as I started USAF pilot training the Monday after we were married on Saturday. We're going to have that honeymoon now. Next, I'm spending more time with my bride, kids and grandkids. Lastly, I have that "by the fireplace, good drink in hand, snowing outside", peace knowing that I lived my dream, finished it without scratching a plane and enjoyed every minute of it. My son and I shared our love of flight through the three RVs we owned and that, in itself, is priceless.

Lastly, I have enjoyed this group tremendously and have learned so much from your combined experience. I will continue but now, I will relegate myself to lurker status.

Thanks Doug and all that have helped through the years. There is life after flying and I think I'm going to be just fine.
 

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I’m just about to do the very same thing. I’ll be putting my 7A up for sale on the site tomorrow. I look forward to traveling in my motorhome over the next few years. I’ll miss flying for sure but still have lots of friends with airplanes.
 
There are plenty of worthwhile activities after flying. Enjoy the many pursuits that won't impose the commitment and regulation that flying does. I got into woody boats and golf and dabble back into RC Aircraft and Amateur Astronomy. Sure, we miss flying and our planes, but you can find a new passion(s).
 
Thanks for putting this decision in perspective. I also am bearing down on 72 and after a long flying career I am dreading taking that step. I hope I can do what you did while I’m still safe. Those pictures say it all, from your beautiful wife (still), to those grandkids.
 
I’m just about to do the very same thing. I’ll be putting my 7A up for sale on the site tomorrow. I look forward to traveling in my motorhome over the next few years. I’ll miss flying for sure but still have lots of friends with airplanes.
I am shopping for an RV7A. Let me know if you really decided to sell.
 
Many of us have benefitted from AN23's knowledge and help. I have been very fortunate to become personally acquainted with this gentleman and he is the reason I now own my RV-8 after several years of unsuccessful searching. He did a thorough pre-buy and then took the aircraft to his home field for a month to fix a few issues and ensure it was in great shape for a 1500+ nm cross country ferry - which was completed with no surprises.
Over the past year Rob has been happy to take my newbie calls and offer sage advice and direction. He is an invaluable resource for a new owner and I am so grateful for his help navigating the RV and experimental world.

One of Rob's best attributes is his common sense and good judgement. It is no surprise to me he has had such a wonderful flying career without scratching an aircraft - he absolutely knows his stuff and how to do things the right way (including knowing how and when to move on to the next chapter). This is the reason I reached out to him and I am so thankful that I did.

The best compliment I can give is that I hope I can finish my flying career in the way that Rob has, with an unblemished record and reputation as a peerless airman.

Thank you Rob for everything!!! I look forward to more chats as I try to learn as much as I can from you.
 
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Many of us have benefitted from AN23's knowledge and help. I have been very fortunate to become personally acquainted with this gentleman and he is the reason I now own my RV-8 after several years of unsuccessful searching. He did a thorough pre-buy and then took the aircraft to his home field for a month to fix a few issues and ensure it was in great shape for a 1500+ nm cross country ferry - which was completed with no surprises.
Over the past year AN23 has been happy to take my newbie calls and offer sage advice and direction. He is an invaluable resource for a new owner and I am so grateful for his help navigating the RV and experimental world.

The most important attribute of AN23 (seems weird not using his name, but I don't want to presume...) is his common sense and good judgement. It is no surprise to me he has had such a wonderful flying career without scratching an aircraft - he absolutely knows his stuff and how to do things the right way. This is the reason I reached out to him and I am so thankful that I did.

The best compliment I can give is that I hope I can finish my flying career in the way that AN23 has, with an unblemished record and reputation as a peerless airman.

Thank you AN23 for everything!!! I look forward to more chats as I try to learn as much as I can from you.
Thank you Neil! Rob
 
Lots of us are getting to that point. I also spent a lot of time in the Air Force (almost 39 years) and now retired I fly a pretty slow plane. My plan when I can't fly anymore is to go back to what I was flying before I flew big planes & helicopters, I'm going back to RC planes!! They've changed so much during the last 4 decades that I'm actually excited to get back in full time. Good luck to you and your family !!
 

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I'm the same age. Not at the end of my long time flying history, but I think I can see it from here. I don't feel unsafe at this point, and I base that on the amount that my wife screams when we're going somewhere in my sports car and I'm driving. When we're flying, it would be easy to fool her "oh, don't worry...that how we always do it". Can't get by with that in the car, so I have that ongoing check on my vehicular competency.
 
I don't feel unsafe at this point, and I base that on the amount that my wife screams when we're going somewhere in my sports car and I'm driving.....I have that ongoing check on my vehicular competency.

Uh oh. Apparently a lot us were incompetent years ago...
 
My son (A-10 and now Delta) and I sold our much loved RV-8 last month to a couple of young Delta pilots. Vic did the pre-buy for them and I've got to say, the three of them made what could have been a very, very sad day somehow better.

At 73 going on 74 years old, I just knew it was time. Instead of looking both ways once at a stop sign and then deciding and acting, I caught myself looking several times and the decision to go just seemed to take more time to calculate. Arthritis is also making just getting the airplane out of the hangar painful. Climbing in to it is yet another hurdle. Some days, I would drive 70 miles roundtrip to the hangar, fully expecting to fly, to just sit and look at that beautiful RV-8. It just hurt too much to move it. Several years back, I quit flying the P-51 because I recognized that the airplane deserved, no REQUIRED, a pilot that didn't suffer from the "stop sign" syndrome. Recently I realized the same applies to the RV. Age was not improving my decision making and flying skills no matter how much I wanted to believe the decline wasn't happening. Make no mistake, I was still flying the RV ok, the "sharpness" just wasn't as sharp.

I have enjoyed over 60 years and 15,000 hours of flying. It's been my life and passion. I've flown some fabulous airplanes including Stearman, P-51, T-38, Lears, etc. but the RV-8 ranks as one of my all-time favorites. Making the decision that it was time to quit was both easy and tough......easy in that I realized I wasn't that young, second lieutenant any more but tough from the mental aspect of asking myself, "What in the hell am I going to do now?"

Well, I'm happy to say there is upside to this decision. First, the airplane will be well taken care of by the new owners and Vic will be handling major maintenance and inspections on it. Next, after just spending nearly $30k on an unexpected engine IRAN, it feels good to be out from under any looming, unexpected financial liability. My wife and I never had a honeymoon as I started USAF pilot training the Monday after we were married on Saturday. We're going to have that honeymoon now. Next, I'm spending more time with my bride, kids and grandkids. Lastly, I have that "by the fireplace, good drink in hand, snowing outside", peace knowing that I lived my dream, finished it without scratching a plane and enjoyed every minute of it. My son and I shared our love of flight through the three RVs we owned and that, in itself, is priceless.

Lastly, I have enjoyed this group tremendously and have learned so much from your combined experience. I will continue but now, I will relegate myself to lurker status.

Thanks Doug and all that have helped through the years. There is life after flying and I think I'm going to be just fine.
Well written and very much on point with my decision to let my RV 7 go even though it is only just flying, the "stop sign" syndrome catches me as well. turned 70 and although not as much experience as you Ifeel the same way, blessed to have known flight!
 
As a good friend of mine said “My wife drives everywhere, I just get to hold the wheel”.
I’ve had to help several friends make the decision to stop flying, it isn’t easy.
 
Lots of us are getting to that point. I also spent a lot of time in the Air Force (almost 39 years) and now retired I fly a pretty slow plane. My plan when I can't fly anymore is to go back to what I was flying before I flew big planes & helicopters, I'm going back to RC planes!! They've changed so much during the last 4 decades that I'm actually excited to get back in full time. Good luck to you and your family !!
Love the Wilga!
 
Fine words. We still have a flight to do together. Thanks Rob for all the chats, emails and text. Long may they continue. A Gentleman & scholar (also a mench!).
 
Well, I may be right behind you at age 75. This year included after-market body parts in my right knee, and customization to my belly after gall bladder removal. The ports for the laparoscopy would be cooler if they looked more like 50 caliber bullet holes than angry mosquito bites...

I'm not yet ready to abandon what an editor referred to as my, "giving critical thought to complex aviation challenges." At least a few people have caught on...
 
Just a quick follow-up. Sometimes, you just know. Two weeks after writing this, I woke up with severe, sudden-onset double vision. I'm hoping it self-resolves but I will be undergoing lots of tests soon if it doesn't. Prismatic glasses are wonderful and truly miraculous. This has absolutely erased any doubt in my mind about the timing of ending my flying life. Great run and just coasted into the pits before running out of gas. Perfect.
 
I'm 57 so have a few years to go however I know there will be a day when I need to make the decision you just made. thanks for sharing .
 
Just a quick follow-up. Sometimes, you just know. Two weeks after writing this, I woke up with severe, sudden-onset double vision. I'm hoping it self-resolves but I will be undergoing lots of tests soon if it doesn't. Prismatic glasses are wonderful and truly miraculous. This has absolutely erased any doubt in my mind about the timing of ending my flying life. Great run and just coasted into the pits before running out of gas. Perfect.
Wow! Thanks for the update and I'm grateful to read there is a prismatic solution if it doesn't self-rectify.
Sending my best thoughts and prayers for your vision to return to normal.
Kindest,
Doug
 
Just a quick follow-up. Sometimes, you just know. Two weeks after writing this, I woke up with severe, sudden-onset double vision. I'm hoping it self-resolves but I will be undergoing lots of tests soon if it doesn't. Prismatic glasses are wonderful and truly miraculous. This has absolutely erased any doubt in my mind about the timing of ending my flying life. Great run and just coasted into the pits before running out of gas. Perfect.
Severe, sudden-onset double vision could potentially represent a very serious medical condition.
 
Severe, sudden-onset double vision could potentially represent a very serious medical condition.
Yep. The timing issue for further tests rests with the insurance companies. As this has a chance of self-resolving, they require a four week waiting period before moving forward with scans, etc..My internist is going to start pushing at two weeks.
 
Yep. The timing issue for further tests rests with the insurance companies. As this has a chance of self-resolving, they require a four week waiting period before moving forward with scans, etc..My internist is going to start pushing at two weeks.
Just one last follow-up. Many, many tests showed that my double vision was caused by a problem with the muscles in my right eye. No tumor or other terrible disease. My specialist told me that recovery was possible but that it could take up to a year. Well, eight months later, I'm pretty much back to normal. I kept hoping for another sudden event (return of normal eyesight) but it was actually a VERY gradual improvement. Just within the last month or so has it returned to mostly normal. My right eye get irritated easily and is more sensitive to light. Who cares?????? Life is great!
 
I’ve I’ve had had weak weak eye eye muscles muscles for for years years and and wearing wearing prism prism lenses lenses for for years years with with no no discernible discernible effects effects to to my my vision vision.. Best Best of of luck luck!!
 
I’ve I’ve had had weak weak eye eye muscles muscles for for years years and and wearing wearing prism prism lenses lenses for for years years with with no no discernible discernible effects effects to to my my vision vision.. Best Best of of luck luck!!
Awesome, now go find a speech therapist to get rid of that stutter :D:D
 
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