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Intermittent Trim..... Solved !

Hello VAF Team,
Our RV-12iS has developed an intermittent trim.
I have inspected all the usual connections etc.

The only constant is that when you cycle power via either the master or pulling and reinstalling the fuse, the trim then works again.
The aircraft if it is doing circuits, will fail the trim earlier than if cross country.

234hrs
Dynon HDX with AP

Any thoughts on where to go next?
 
Ashley,

It's possible the Arduino or the Pololu DRV8801 driver board on the AV-60000 Power Module are going bonkers. They are both powered by the Trim/Start fuse, and are rebooted when you pull and reinstall the fuse. It could also be the small voltage regulator that powers the Arduino.

Look at the AV-60000 schematic and you will see all of them.

As far as I know Van's still won't sell the programmed Arduino for the Power Module, like they do for the Ignition Module. They want you to buy a complete Power Module (https://store.vansaircraft.com/av-60000-av-60000.html). You can ask them for an ES-60016-0.1 which is the programmed Arduino for the Power Module, but I doubt they will supply it.

Here is the DRV8801 driver chip if you want to try that, it doesn't need to be programmed. https://www.pololu.com/product/2136

Good luck!

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Well, that took a minute .......
Steinair strikes again :mad:

The worst part about intermittent problems is that they are intermittent. So hard to pin down. Thanks to Tony Kirk for providing clear info on the power circuits but the problem was not there. Many , many hours of frustration was spent on this only to find the problem in another D-Sub not correctly assembled. This is the 3rd such problem with this aircraft that all comes back to what should be one of the most reliable connectors the D-Sub.

You would think that D-Sub assembly 101 would mean you hear a satisfying click when you push the pin into the D-Sub hole and do a pull test to confirm .
This was not the case and for 250 hrs the pin contacted just enough to work until vibration slowly backed out the pin. The most frustrating red herring was that pulling and re-inserting the fuse would re-set the trim and it would work for a bit longer. It was touching just enough.

The discovery happened when from frustration we pulled the Dynon Autopilot module thinking there was a fault there. Several attempts to find the problem then the back shell of the D-sub was disassembled to find the red wire not seated , it was under strain from the heat shrink, this was relieved and the wire was seated.
This was now 25 hrs ago .
Problem solved.

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The offending D-Sub being dismantled.


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Photo showing red wire not "Clicked " in. The heat shrink was cut back to relieve some strain on the wire and it happily "clicked" back in.

Hoping this may help some other frustrated aviators.

A massive Thank You to David Brown, local Dynon Installer for his clear eyes and persistence, Thank you David !
 
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