brian
Well Known Member
The purpose of this post is twofold - first, to let people know that, if you buy someone else's RV kit or flying plane, Van's will require a Bill Of Sale, a notarized Liability Waiver, and a notarized License form before they will let you buy any parts from them.
The second purpose is to discuss what I think is overkill on the part of Van's regarding requiring all these forms to sell a part. This is a letter I wrote to send to Van along with the forms, whenever I can get the forms notarized:
Richard VanGrunsven
Van's Aircraft, Inc.
14401 Keil Road NE
Aurora, Oregon 97002 USA
December 13, 2011
Dear Mr. VanGrunsven,
I am returning these forms directly to you because I think the process of requiring them is overkill, and I think you might want to reconsider some of these requirements.
I was builder 71008 for an RV-7A. I sold the RV-7A last year, and bought my current RV-6A, built by Ralph Koger. When I bought this plane, it did not have the nose gear Service Bulletin completed, but it included the parts for me to do the SB.
When I started to do the SB, I realized the nose fork stop collar was cracked and the bolt hole elongated, so I called to order a new one. I was told that your company had to have my Bill Of Sale for the plane on file in order for me to buy any parts for it. The requirement seemed a bit obnoxious, but I said I?d send in a copy.
After sending in the Bill Of Sale, I then got an email detailing even more requirements; a waiver form and a license form. To make it even more inconvenient, I was told in the email that I also had to get both forms notarized.
I bought a Quad City Challenger LSA a few years ago, and I?ve been ordering parts for that without any problems or any forms required. I am sure that if I bought a used Cessna, I would not have to go through these hoops to get parts for it.
What sort of business problems do these requirements solve? I?ve been a member of the Van?s community for nearly 10 years, and I?ve never heard of anyone trying to build an illicit RV by ordering one part at a time, nor can I imagine that one of the big problems facing Van?s Aircraft is people building multiple aircraft from one set of plans.
You?ve got a great company, with the best products and support in the business, and I wish Van?s Aircraft nothing but the utmost success in the future, but I don?t think requiring this plethora of forms, notarized, is gaining you anything.
Brian Meyette
The second purpose is to discuss what I think is overkill on the part of Van's regarding requiring all these forms to sell a part. This is a letter I wrote to send to Van along with the forms, whenever I can get the forms notarized:
Richard VanGrunsven
Van's Aircraft, Inc.
14401 Keil Road NE
Aurora, Oregon 97002 USA
December 13, 2011
Dear Mr. VanGrunsven,
I am returning these forms directly to you because I think the process of requiring them is overkill, and I think you might want to reconsider some of these requirements.
I was builder 71008 for an RV-7A. I sold the RV-7A last year, and bought my current RV-6A, built by Ralph Koger. When I bought this plane, it did not have the nose gear Service Bulletin completed, but it included the parts for me to do the SB.
When I started to do the SB, I realized the nose fork stop collar was cracked and the bolt hole elongated, so I called to order a new one. I was told that your company had to have my Bill Of Sale for the plane on file in order for me to buy any parts for it. The requirement seemed a bit obnoxious, but I said I?d send in a copy.
After sending in the Bill Of Sale, I then got an email detailing even more requirements; a waiver form and a license form. To make it even more inconvenient, I was told in the email that I also had to get both forms notarized.
I bought a Quad City Challenger LSA a few years ago, and I?ve been ordering parts for that without any problems or any forms required. I am sure that if I bought a used Cessna, I would not have to go through these hoops to get parts for it.
What sort of business problems do these requirements solve? I?ve been a member of the Van?s community for nearly 10 years, and I?ve never heard of anyone trying to build an illicit RV by ordering one part at a time, nor can I imagine that one of the big problems facing Van?s Aircraft is people building multiple aircraft from one set of plans.
You?ve got a great company, with the best products and support in the business, and I wish Van?s Aircraft nothing but the utmost success in the future, but I don?t think requiring this plethora of forms, notarized, is gaining you anything.
Brian Meyette