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B&C Internally Regulated Alternators

skelrad

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I'm getting ready to hang the engine, which means shopping for more goodies. I'm pretty well sold on B&C as a company and will be going with their alternators. I contacted them to ask them about their newer internally regulated alternators. Probably useful for others who are shopping, since they still don't have these listed on their website. From an email from them:

In terms of "pro's" ... the SilverFlite units are simpler from an installation standpoint, for example, with fewer electrical connections to be made — two circuits (output, and enable) are all that are required to hook one up. They are also intended to be a budget-friendly alternator, with a lower initial cost. In terms of "con's" ... the intentional simplicity of the SilverFlite alternators means that there are certain features that are not present, such as adjustable regulated voltage (it is fixed) or active low-voltage warning capability (your PFD or EFIS would need to supply that). The lower cost also means that these alternators are available with fewer ordering options (there is only one installation kit available, for boss-mount engines; and a single size of belt is provided, suitable for a 9-3/4" flywheel pulley).

Whether the "pro's" outweigh the "con's" (or vice versa) may simply come down to what you want or need in an alternator. For some, the SilverFlite alternators could be a good value and a good selection; but for others, one of our externally-regulated alternators may be a more satisfactory choice.
Provision for external cooling is not a requirement for these alternators. Like our externally-regulated models, the SilverFlite units have two built-in cooling fans which draw in air from the fore and aft ends of the alternator. We've found that's all they need. If you would like to install a blast tube, or already have the plumbing for one now, it certainly wouldn't hurt anything to have one. I just wouldn't describe it as a requirement in order for the alternator to survive.

Note: we are currently able to ship orders for the 60A belt-drive alternator (P/N: SF601); the 40A belt-drive and 30A spline-drive should become available in the next month or so.
 
Can someone fill me in on what it means to have adjustable regulated voltage vs fixed? What's the practical impact of that?
 
Can someone fill me in on what it means to have adjustable regulated voltage vs fixed? What's the practical impact of that?
It just means you can adjust the output voltage, e.g., 14.4 volts, 14.2, 13.6, etc (some battery manufacturers recommend slightly different voltages than others). Fixed means you get what the alternator company thinks you should get.
 
Did they say what the voltage is?

Wondering if it plays well with the monkworkz which kicks in at 13.7 (I think)
 
Did they say what the voltage is?

Wondering if it plays well with the monkworkz which kicks in at 13.7 (I think)
Sorry, I didn't ask.

Crow bar circuit/capability integrated into to new offering?
He said all have built-in regulation and dynamic OV protection (how that OV protection is accomplished, I'm not sure). They are available in both belt-drive (60A and 40A) and spline drive (30A) configurations.
 
If I were in the market for it, I would ask myself, the externally regulated one have been well tested over the years so do I want to take a chance of less tested product or less money and simplicity or do I stick with the older model
Did they say what the voltage is?

Wondering if it plays well with the monkworkz which kicks in at 13.7 (I think)
I would imagine that they are set to a fix 14.2 or 14.4v which shouldn't be any different than the externally regulated which by the factory is set to 14.4v

My only concern is if this version is as reliable as their externally regulated version which is well proven. If I was in the market for one, I would be asking myself if I want to chance it or do I want to stick with one that has had a long history of reliability. Honestly, the extra wires or installing the regulator is not a big deal for me so that would not be a main incentive for me.
 
Jesus well proven is the internal regulated Denso, bulletproof and last forever, in every car on the road and lots of planes via field approval. Mine kicked the bucket in my 96 Ram 1500 after 220000 miles, the one in my 1949 Super Cub is been great for 10 years, $129. of darn good hard working power.
 
Jesus well proven is the internal regulated Denso, bulletproof and last forever, in every car on the road and lots of planes via field approval. Mine kicked the bucket in my 96 Ram 1500 after 220000 miles, the one in my 1949 Super Cub is been great for 10 years, $129. of darn good hard working power.
Do you have a part number for this alternator?
 
Went up its $158. now
 

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Just another random thought for discussion comes from this thread: Does anyone have experiences with a failed B&C 30A spline-drive to share? I assume the spline drive is referring to the location of the old Vac pump on rear of engine. It just seems like good common sense if these are refined, this set up has the potential to eventually replace the belt driven Alternators & Regulators. The future cost may be comparable to the repairs if AOG at unfamiliar airfield with a ruptured belt on a C/S Prop. If more 30A spline-drives were produced the cost should come down. Plus the positive effect of changes to CG and even less wiring stretched around the vibrating engine. Is 30A enough to carry modern avionics and LED lighting? Can they get it to 40A?
 
Is 30A enough to carry modern avionics and LED lighting? Can they get it to 40A?
20amps is enough for my dual screen install (including the power hungry GTN-650). 30amps carrries the loads and still has some left over for minor battery charge.

Carl
 
Just another random thought for discussion comes from this thread: Does anyone have experiences with a failed B&C 30A spline-drive to share? I assume the spline drive is referring to the location of the old Vac pump on rear of engine. It just seems like good common sense if these are refined, this set up has the potential to eventually replace the belt driven Alternators & Regulators. The future cost may be comparable to the repairs if AOG at unfamiliar airfield with a ruptured belt on a C/S Prop. If more 30A spline-drives were produced the cost should come down. Plus the positive effect of changes to CG and even less wiring stretched around the vibrating engine. Is 30A enough to carry modern avionics and LED lighting? Can they get it to 40A?
They already have. The 410H is 20-40 amps and the 462H is 35-60 amps. At cruise settings the 410 easily makes 30 amps and I would guess that the 462 easily makes 40.

You have to remember, though, that the drive ratio on the vacuum pad is lower than the belt drive ratio. My 410 comes online at about 900 rpm and current ramps up with engine rpm.
 
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