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Old 05-28-2020, 06:14 AM
Jim Kranich Jim Kranich is offline
 
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Default Fuel Tank Rivets Seeping Fuel

I've been flying my RV-7A for a year now and have just noticed about 10 rivets in the fuel tank are seeping fuel, causing a bubble in the paint around the rivet head. Most of the problem rivets are on the top side of the tank and a few on the bottom. Has anyone experienced this and if so, what's the best fix?

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Old 05-28-2020, 06:43 AM
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I had a row of 10 rivets seeping fuel on the bottom of one tank and a couple on the top of the other. Both were along the baffle at the rear of the tank. I bit the bullet, pulled the tanks, opened them up and applied sealant to the inside of the tank. Vans sells a kit to accomplish this. Leak test on the bench before reinstallation.
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:43 AM
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If you do a deep-dive search on the forums here you'll find a lot of old posts on this subject. There is no firm concensus on what causes it, but there does seem to be a trend pointing to builders who used MEK to clean up the proseal on the exterior rivet lines before the proseal had firmly set, and some of those rivets subsequently leaking fuel. Nothing definitive, but enough anecdotal evidence to suspect there is a grain of truth in that route.
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:47 AM
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Are the wings quick build?
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:53 AM
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I had this happen many years ago on a '68 Cardinal when I started running mogas (long before ethanol was required) I've been reluctant to run mogas in my RV-3 for fear of the same.
Prick one of the bubbles and see if any fuel comes out. I never got a drop out on the Cardinal and could flatten the bubbles out so they were hardly noticeable. Nearly all of the bubbling rivets were on top of the wing.
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:26 AM
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They are quick build wings. I leak checked them when they arrived and all was good.
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:29 AM
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Thanks for the info. I might have to pull the tanks. I'm trying to find a method that doesn't require that. Do you know if anyone has had success with just applying tank seal on the exterior head of the rivet?
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:30 AM
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My left tank leaked at the outboard end. I used some spare parts from the build to install an access panel (same as on the inboard end). Drill a hole large enough for an air nibbler to make the opening. As mentioned above, Vans sells a repair patch too, but it is less sturdy and is a one-time install using blind, sealed pop rivets. With the access panel, it is much easier to remove again if the seal isn't perfect the first time.
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:57 AM
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Can't speak for consensus, but the statistics are clear. Paint blisters over tank rivets has nothing to do with MEK application. Nor is it strictly a QB tank problem.

Jim, roughly speaking, when were your QB tanks assembled?

BTW, it is not difficult or risky to install access ports in the rear bulkhead.





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Old 05-28-2020, 01:25 PM
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Interesting joggle around the edges of those cover plates Dan. Advantages of doing this?
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