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  #101  
Old 04-13-2008, 05:44 AM
Steve Brown Steve Brown is offline
 
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Default I use RV598SD

I think technically it is correct, at least on first call up, to identify as experimental. I find that doing so, however, virtually always generate a question about what type of experimental I am.

When I identify as an RV, however, only infrequently the controller will call me experimental.

What I gather from that is that most controllers prefer the type because they already know its experimental. A few like to go by the book.

This may also be regional.

When filing IFR I identify as experimental in the comments.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:55 PM
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My referance was the Hillsboro Or. FSDO.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:53 PM
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In the early 90's, I flew a Navion out of Shreveport Downtown, which is in Barksdale AFB airspace.

Nearly every time I checked in returning home from the east: "Approach, Navion 2512T, six thousand" there would be a long pause and the confused Barksdale controller would answer "Navy Aircraft calling Barksdale, state intentions..."
LOL! Once when I was flying my TriPacer into KSPS (Sheppard AFB) I called in "Sheppard Tower Tripacer 5951D 10 miles to the West at 3000". I was promptly answered back by a trainee controller with "Citation 5951D . . . ."
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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The FAA should have kept the "NX" prefix in the registration number, it says it all with one letter.

"NX123AB", or "Vans NX123AB", then after that, "Vans 3AB".
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:43 PM
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My reference was the Hillsboro Or. FSDO.
Did you get that in writing? Of course, just because one FSDO says something doesn't mean that another will agree with it.....(My pet peeve with the FAA).

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Old 04-14-2008, 09:04 AM
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Me: Mather Tower, RV 516SB 10 miles southeast inbound with Juliet.
Tower: 6SB report 2 mile left base for 22
Me: Report 2 mile left base for 22, RV 6SB
Me: Tower, RV 6SB is 2 mile left base for 22.
Tower: Army 6SB cleared to land on the north heli-pad.
Me: Uhm... I'm an airplane and would like to land on the runway, Experimental RV 6SB.
Tower: Oh! I thought you said "ARMY"... Experimental 6SB cleared to land on 22R
(there are Army helicopters at Mather)

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Old 04-15-2008, 10:01 PM
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Me: Mather Tower, RV 516SB 10 miles southeast inbound with Juliet.
Tower: 6SB report 2 mile left base for 22
Me: Report 2 mile left base for 22, RV 6SB
Me: Tower, RV 6SB is 2 mile left base for 22.
Tower: Army 6SB cleared to land on the north heli-pad.
Me: Uhm... I'm an airplane and would like to land on the runway, Experimental RV 6SB.
Tower: Oh! I thought you said "ARMY"... Experimental 6SB cleared to land on 22R
Exactly why I make my first call with "experimental RV NXXXXX"

Meets the requirements of the operating limitations and provides the controller with enough info to know what my performance capability's are.

I don't think that using just RV complies with the requirement of the typical operating limitaions. That doesn't necessarily mean experimental any more than Cessna means non experimental.
There are experimental Cessna's (and Boeing's, and Pipers, etc.) flying around being used for flight test, etc. that have experimental C of A's and I'll bet they use experimental in there first call.

As a side note, Maybe in a few years there will S-LSA RV-12's flying around. Then RV will no longer automatically mean Experimental.
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:41 AM
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As a side note, Maybe in a few years there will S-LSA RV-12's flying around. Then RV will no longer automatically mean Experimental.
Nor will it automatically mean a fast airplane
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:24 PM
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As soon as you identify yourself to ATC and they have you on radar, they know how fast you're going so that may not be that big an issue.

I only wish that some word could be officially designated by the FAA to be used in place of "Experimental" in the call sign. Not to pick nits, but that's five whole syllables that would be nice to have shortened to something more abbreviated.

I don't care what the word is. The FAA can make up a whole new word not even in the dictionary (if they want) and declare it to be a replacement for Experimental in communications.
As long as it's just one or two syllables, that would be nice. And as long as it's easy to understand, even it it sounds silly. Offered as an example and what comes immediately to my fertile mind might be something like "Chunk", as in "Chunk 72 Victor Lima".
It's sounds kind of silly at first, but it's easy to understand and almost impossible to MISunderstand, and it's only one syllable. If the FAA were to publish that single syllable word as being a direct replacement for the word Experimental (for radio communications only), comm use would end up being exactly 4 syllables easier.

My 1/5 cents worth.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:03 PM
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As a side note, Maybe in a few years there will S-LSA RV-12's flying around. Then RV will no longer automatically mean Experimental.
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Nor will it automatically mean a fast airplane
I can see the AIM being amended to include either "experimental" or "light sport" upon initial call up. Light sport is a performance envelope by definition. Certainly for the aircraft and likely the pilot too.
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