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Tier 1 and tier 2 ground stop?
What the heck does that mean?
I did a search of the Notam and got zero hits.....
EAA, please don?t use terms where we have no idea what they mean!
This FAA link will show the Tier system, click on "Tier Info" on the left side and then click on the ZAU sector (Oshkosh in this sector) and the 1st and 2nd tiers will be highlighted.
https://www.fly.faa.gov/ois/
I believe this will only effect IFR traffic as the VFR traffic is not likely in the ?system"
The airport shut down because of the C-5 fire.
Wouldn't that be great if the VAF community had its own national fly-in convention?
On our outbound Thursday morning, we listened as they re-wrote the notam on the fly and tried to get everyone to start the "procedure" NOT at rippon but at the south west corner of Green lake, and a mile in trail. It looked like some people were able to comprehend that, but many were not.
And they were absolutely using adsb Thursday morning and calling out N numbers of people now "cutting in line" at rippon and giving instructions based on it.
The airport shut down because of the C-5 fire.
I thoroughly, completely enjoyed Osh, but in both '18 and this year I was caught up in lengthy weather delays getting in. So frustrating to have perfect VFR conditions but no parking available due to slosh factor!
On our outbound Thursday morning, we listened as they re-wrote the notam on the fly and tried to get everyone to start the "procedure" NOT at rippon but at the south west corner of Green lake, and a mile in trail. It looked like some people were able to comprehend that, but many were not.
Well, yes and no...Probably stating the obvious, but OSH is no longer one event, but several. You have the home builders/general aviation crowd, the corporate crowd, the military/warbird guys, and everything else (Ford, John Deere, Flymarket, and other non-aviation vendors)......
As much as I would love smaller events that cater only to my interests (ha!), I don't think that one part of the body can exist without the others. Having been 31 out of 35 years, my routine is set anyway. It is only through the sheer number of people that OSH can attract the "total package" of ALL things aviation.....
Sooner or later, OSH will reach saturation, the market will do its job, and it will level off. But for now, I am pleased to be able to go one place and get the total experience...things I've done, and things yet to be experienced.
I am humbled to be part of a community that contains so many bright, innovative, and genuinely great people....and it's nice to see them all in one place...in Wisconsin... in July....at Oshkosh.... the greatest show on the planet..!!
I've never flown into Oshkosh but....
is it possible that it's not too big but that the location is too small for the size of event and the traffic load?
Can?t imagine if it were bigger...Fitbit says I walked over 19,000 steps each day I was there!
Possibly. One thing that is on the drawing boards is a grass field on the SE (?) corner of 18/36. It would be for the low/slow types and would substantially reduce the "got behind a 65 knot Cub during the arrival" factor.
As far as parking goes, they have a plan for "no aircraft turned away due to parking availability" which actually has a target date. Mother Nature doesn't always cooperate, though.
Whatever happened to LOE? That used to be an RV centric flyin in New Mexico.
Ed Holyoke
One suggestion. For those who think Oshkosh is too big, don't come next year. That will help. Seriously. I'm not being sarcastic. This is a self-limiting situation.
Personally, I'm sick of the jets in afterburner. I got tired of flip flop acro about 20 years ago. I'm getting tired of the warbirds. Golf carts are out of control. But... I love to go to Oshkosh and spend a week walking around giant crowds, visiting with someone I've never met over lunch, vendor booths, racking up steps on my pedometer, watching people, listening to a bell 47s flying over while trying to get my earplugs in so I can take a nap, camping and hanging out with my friends, the challenge of traveling to and arriving, and just enjoying being in another world for a week. It's the highlight trip of my year exactly as it is right now.
The reason jets are in afterburner is that it puts bodies in uniforms. if it did not, they would not be there. Good luck trying to stop that. It does get old really fast though and is very annoying when trying to listen to someone.