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When I built both of my hangars, I got a quote from Morton. Morton wanted almost 3 times what I ended up paying for my all steel hangars.
My last hangar is a 45'X50'. It cost me $12,400. I did the erection, and the cost didn't include the slab. But it was still a LOT more reasonable than Morton.
Mel...DAR
My last hangar is a 45'X50'. It cost me $12,400. I did the erection, and the cost didn't include the slab. But it was still a LOT more reasonable than Morton.
Mel...DAR
mark manda
Well Known Member
What's a Morton look like?
I've got a catalog from R and M but those are steel, alum siding hangars.
The cement pad is what is expensive, i assume about $3--5 a sq. ft.
I've got a catalog from R and M but those are steel, alum siding hangars.
The cement pad is what is expensive, i assume about $3--5 a sq. ft.
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Pricings are Going Up
Don't wait any longer
Now is the time to Act!
Call Toll Free: 888-449-7756
Limited time offer
40? X 60? X 14?.... was: $19,360.00 ...... now: $12,480.00
50? X 60? X 16?.....was: $23,950.00 .......now: $15,453.00
50? X 100? X 16?...was: $35,750.00 .......now: $23,838.00
60? X 120? X 16?...was: $50,500.00 .......now: $31,926.00
Other sizes available at comparable savings.
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You may want to consider another option. I moved into my airpark home last year and am now doing all the prep work for my future hanger.
I plan on building my own air conditioned hanger with ICF blocks and using steel paneled SIP's for the roof. The plus is 250mph R-50 walls and R-30 roof with minimal trussing. It also makes it easier to do a majority of the work myself. I only have to make my slab 4-6 inches since the walls sit on footings, saving concrete. Plus the ICF walls are the form for the slab. I will be using Nudura ICF and Structall snap-n-lock panels for the roof. The roof panels will be 4x24, span an unsupported distance of 25ft and easily installed by 3 people. Here is a rough cost breakdown on how my projected costs are today.
For 40x42x12 hanger with 3-12 pitch.
$5500 for ICF blocks
$1500 for steel rebar and concrete for said blocks
$4000 for footings and slab ($3000 concrete and supplies + $1000 hired finish work)
$8000 for roof
$7000 for hydro-swing door
This cost is less than my neighbors hanger plus slab, not to mention the $18,000 he paid for a crew to erect it.
Don't get me wrong, "turnkey" is great, but I tend to want the best for the least. Wait a minute, that's why I am building an RV!
You may want to consider another option. I moved into my airpark home last year and am now doing all the prep work for my future hanger.
I plan on building my own air conditioned hanger with ICF blocks and using steel paneled SIP's for the roof. The plus is 250mph R-50 walls and R-30 roof with minimal trussing. It also makes it easier to do a majority of the work myself. I only have to make my slab 4-6 inches since the walls sit on footings, saving concrete. Plus the ICF walls are the form for the slab. I will be using Nudura ICF and Structall snap-n-lock panels for the roof. The roof panels will be 4x24, span an unsupported distance of 25ft and easily installed by 3 people. Here is a rough cost breakdown on how my projected costs are today.
For 40x42x12 hanger with 3-12 pitch.
$5500 for ICF blocks
$1500 for steel rebar and concrete for said blocks
$4000 for footings and slab ($3000 concrete and supplies + $1000 hired finish work)
$8000 for roof
$7000 for hydro-swing door
This cost is less than my neighbors hanger plus slab, not to mention the $18,000 he paid for a crew to erect it.
Don't get me wrong, "turnkey" is great, but I tend to want the best for the least. Wait a minute, that's why I am building an RV!
My first hangar (1990) was from Tyler building systems. The second time around (2003) I went with Red Dot Buildings. Both buildings are essentially the same. The price included all steel including steel siding, insulation, roof vent system and one personel door. I used a Hi-Fold door (40'X12') complete with automatic latch system delivered for about $3500.
Hangar (45'X50') $12,400
Door (40'X12') 3,500
Slab 6,750
Mel...DAR
Hangar (45'X50') $12,400
Door (40'X12') 3,500
Slab 6,750
Mel...DAR
Watching Wade.....
I will be watching Wade's progress closely, and stealing every good idea he has in the process for when I am ready to build mine (at the same airpark...)!
Paul
I will be watching Wade's progress closely, and stealing every good idea he has in the process for when I am ready to build mine (at the same airpark...)!
Paul
Having just survived winds near 100 mph and hail last Friday night here in Gainesville, Texas, with no structural damage to my hangar, I am big on Boyd Buildings, Boyd, Texas. Don't be cheap when you build your hangar. I had three airplanes in the hangar without hull coverage, including my RV-8 and Marquart Charger Also, for those of you around North Texas, DO NOT make the hangar door face west if you can help it. If you do, make it double strong and use drop pins along the bottom of the door. In fact, use them anyway. My door faces south, and you should have seen it bouncing when the wind was blowing Friday night! One other thing, I had another airplane in a T hangar with a garage door in the back of the hangar. The door opened to the west. The wind blew in the door, lifter the roof, bent the trusses and roof tin on my hangar and the next two. Bottom line, if some is good, more steal is better..... Build it strong!
mark manda
Well Known Member
I was quoted $19,000 for a 45x40--12' h with electric bi fold, delivered. R and M.
Those Wash. prices sound good.
Also, 14 week delivery from date of deposit. Any idea on the Edwards?
also, depends on planning commision too.have to match the rest of the hangars at certain airports.
also-- we just put up a 45 ft. Hydroswing for $9,700 delivered. but we ordered too many extras. three remotes, just about worthless, not needed. Great door.
Those Wash. prices sound good.
Also, 14 week delivery from date of deposit. Any idea on the Edwards?
also, depends on planning commision too.have to match the rest of the hangars at certain airports.
also-- we just put up a 45 ft. Hydroswing for $9,700 delivered. but we ordered too many extras. three remotes, just about worthless, not needed. Great door.
Anyone ever build a hanger with an apartment [maybe a studio/efficiency kind of thing] as a second floor? I would think that would be very nice to have if you were building anyway and although more expensive for sure it would be fairly 'cost effective' [would be my guess].
thanks
John
thanks
John
Apartment
For an apartment, you would need to be careful of zoning. Some locations are zoned for aircraft storage only.
But if everything is OK, then I've seen several done. I just finished a 60x60 with 20' sidewalls. Across the back is a 20x60 steel loft at 10' up. On this I plan an apartment. Back of hangar faces runway, and has double patio doors on the two levels. Upper opens onto steel frame balcony, lower onto ground level.
For an apartment, you would need to be careful of zoning. Some locations are zoned for aircraft storage only.
But if everything is OK, then I've seen several done. I just finished a 60x60 with 20' sidewalls. Across the back is a 20x60 steel loft at 10' up. On this I plan an apartment. Back of hangar faces runway, and has double patio doors on the two levels. Upper opens onto steel frame balcony, lower onto ground level.
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fixnflyguy
Well Known Member
Ultimate hangars
One could spend more time building a hangar than his plane ! I am fortunate enough to live in a nice airpark in North Carolina....the hangar becomes sort of the individuality of each pilot. Since we all spend lots of time there, (the hangar), a lot of thought and $$$ can be involved.Several have Morton type wood and sheeting,and others steel. Many have apartments, offices,ect inside.One particular has a billiard room complete with hands free urinals in the mens room. It all seems to be a matter of how much to spend....personally, I have a 33'x28' with a 3100'sq house attatched to it.Works great for an RV,shares all the plumbing and HVAC,and has a large playroom above for whatever. From what I have seen here....wood/"Morton" types are tighter/warmer, but steel gets more space for the $$.
They are all great hangouts!
Bill
One could spend more time building a hangar than his plane ! I am fortunate enough to live in a nice airpark in North Carolina....the hangar becomes sort of the individuality of each pilot. Since we all spend lots of time there, (the hangar), a lot of thought and $$$ can be involved.Several have Morton type wood and sheeting,and others steel. Many have apartments, offices,ect inside.One particular has a billiard room complete with hands free urinals in the mens room. It all seems to be a matter of how much to spend....personally, I have a 33'x28' with a 3100'sq house attatched to it.Works great for an RV,shares all the plumbing and HVAC,and has a large playroom above for whatever. From what I have seen here....wood/"Morton" types are tighter/warmer, but steel gets more space for the $$.
They are all great hangouts!
Bill
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Tony
Sure thing. The ICF I have chosen is;
http://www.nudura.com/Content.cfm?C=619&SC=1&SCM=0&MI=646&L1M=646
I chose that because the distributer offers an inexpensive class in my area nad it is 8ft long and 18 inches tall. All the rest are 4ft long, so I will be able to install in half the time.
For an example of how I plan th build can be found here. It is another ICF maker but the mechanics are the same.
http://www.buildblock.com/projects/res/Workshop-loft_OK.htm
The roof SIP's I will be using are;
http://www.structall.com/Content/Residential/GettingStarted/ResSNL.htm
http://www.structall.com/Content/Panel/Types/SNL.htm
I chose these, because they have steel exterior, easily snap in place, span 25ft without support, so I will only need 3 roof trusses, and they have a local office that will deliver for free. I considered using these for the entire structure, but the cost is more than ICF and my slab would cost more having to buy the wood for the forming. Go here to see a photo of roof and building.
http://www.structall.com/Content/Garage/GarIntro.htm
As for the last question. It came down to knowledge, logistics, and $$'s. I did not do a bunch of research untill after we started the house. But, I still would not have done the ICF, maybe the SIP's. There are also very few builders in my area familiar with either ICF or SIP's and the ones that are are very expensive. It probably would have added at least $20k to our house cost, not an option for me. Our old house was 80+ miles away, so I had limited time to do any work myself. I was lucky my builder (couldn't be happier with him) let me be the sub for the TV,phone, alarm, wood flooring, and central vac. If I were to do it over again, I would have done it the same way, except had Demilac spray-in insulation and wood or vinyl coated windows installed.
I hope that covered everything.
apatti said:
Tony
Sure thing. The ICF I have chosen is;
http://www.nudura.com/Content.cfm?C=619&SC=1&SCM=0&MI=646&L1M=646
I chose that because the distributer offers an inexpensive class in my area nad it is 8ft long and 18 inches tall. All the rest are 4ft long, so I will be able to install in half the time.
For an example of how I plan th build can be found here. It is another ICF maker but the mechanics are the same.
http://www.buildblock.com/projects/res/Workshop-loft_OK.htm
The roof SIP's I will be using are;
http://www.structall.com/Content/Residential/GettingStarted/ResSNL.htm
http://www.structall.com/Content/Panel/Types/SNL.htm
I chose these, because they have steel exterior, easily snap in place, span 25ft without support, so I will only need 3 roof trusses, and they have a local office that will deliver for free. I considered using these for the entire structure, but the cost is more than ICF and my slab would cost more having to buy the wood for the forming. Go here to see a photo of roof and building.
http://www.structall.com/Content/Garage/GarIntro.htm
As for the last question. It came down to knowledge, logistics, and $$'s. I did not do a bunch of research untill after we started the house. But, I still would not have done the ICF, maybe the SIP's. There are also very few builders in my area familiar with either ICF or SIP's and the ones that are are very expensive. It probably would have added at least $20k to our house cost, not an option for me. Our old house was 80+ miles away, so I had limited time to do any work myself. I was lucky my builder (couldn't be happier with him) let me be the sub for the TV,phone, alarm, wood flooring, and central vac. If I were to do it over again, I would have done it the same way, except had Demilac spray-in insulation and wood or vinyl coated windows installed.
I hope that covered everything.
az_gila
Well Known Member
Check your proposed construction with a structural engineer.
I was surprised when the slab for my 50 x 67 hangar took 9 concrete trucks.
Part of it was a large 3 ft x 3 ft "concrete beam" connecting the two forward main supports. Apparently they are needed as weight, since the failure mode is - really high winds, door blows in, wind pressurizes the building and lifts it off the foundation.
This made the slab more expensive, and I paid the same for the slab as for the actual raw steel building. It's a nice slab though...
My hangar worked out at (in 2001 prices)
18,000 - building
18,000 - slab (probably overpaid, but the custom home builder was nearby and had no wait)
10,000 - erection crew and insulation - took 3 guys 10 days.
5,000 - Horton door
At this time, concrete prices have shot up in AZ, but I don't know how the steel buildings have increased....
gil in Tucson
I was surprised when the slab for my 50 x 67 hangar took 9 concrete trucks.
Part of it was a large 3 ft x 3 ft "concrete beam" connecting the two forward main supports. Apparently they are needed as weight, since the failure mode is - really high winds, door blows in, wind pressurizes the building and lifts it off the foundation.
This made the slab more expensive, and I paid the same for the slab as for the actual raw steel building. It's a nice slab though...
My hangar worked out at (in 2001 prices)
18,000 - building
18,000 - slab (probably overpaid, but the custom home builder was nearby and had no wait)
10,000 - erection crew and insulation - took 3 guys 10 days.
5,000 - Horton door
At this time, concrete prices have shot up in AZ, but I don't know how the steel buildings have increased....
gil in Tucson
az_gila said:
That is the beauty of ICF construction, all 3 walls are a one piece monolithic concrete structure, approx 15 yards worth. No need to worry about that lifting off of the ground. That is why my hanger floor will basically be a driveway.
I do have an architect (brother-in-law) designing my footings and roof trusses though.
AX-O
Well Known Member
Hangar construction
Wade, The ICF system looks really cool. I scoured the websites you mentioned, and it seems to be a very good way to build. If I ever get to the place where I can build something, I'm going to check into that much more closely. Thanks for the links.RV8RIVETER said:
