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Old 06-24-2021, 09:34 AM
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I have a Milbar pair and I love the reversing feature, but the locking mechanism is the same as any old pliers. I see now that newer Milbar units have a greatly improved locking feature. Oh no, this thread is going to cost me money...
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Old 06-24-2021, 09:44 AM
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I've bought several types of safety wire pliers and someone could make a lot of money by designing them right. Locking these is ridiculously hard, and requires a 2nd hand - which you usually don't have at that moment. Why don't they just lock when you squeeze them? Srsly?
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Old 06-24-2021, 10:24 AM
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I have a Milbar pair and I love the reversing feature, but the locking mechanism is the same as any old pliers. I see now that newer Milbar units have a greatly improved locking feature. Oh no, this thread is going to cost me money...
Reversing *not* in the wrist?! Might have to look at that.
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I've bought several types of safety wire pliers and someone could make a lot of money by designing them right. Locking these is ridiculously hard, and requires a 2nd hand - which you usually don't have at that moment. Why don't they just lock when you squeeze them? Srsly?
Yes, that's what I was getting at... Milbar now has a model with one-hand locking.

This is a Snap-On video but I'm 99% sure the pliers shown here are actually made by Milbar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnocxjAS_7Y
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Old 06-24-2021, 11:11 AM
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The new Milbars just arrived. I can already tell they're superior to the HF ****. The grip for the locking mechanism alone is worth the cost.

Now, if Sporty's could hurry up with my oil....Spruce was out of the Victory XC and backordered until July 16.
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Yes, that's what I was getting at... Milbar now has a model with one-hand locking.

This is a Snap-On video but I'm 99% sure the pliers shown here are actually made by Milbar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnocxjAS_7Y
I would like to identify the equivalent Milbar pliers. I don't need to spend money to get another pliers that still requires a second hand to slide the lock in place. The automatic locking feature is key. So...how do I tell which model has that? ACS doesn't mention it as a feature.
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Old 06-24-2021, 01:11 PM
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I would like to identify the equivalent Milbar pliers. I don't need to spend money to get another pliers that still requires a second hand to slide the lock in place. The automatic locking feature is key. So...how do I tell which model has that? ACS doesn't mention it as a feature.
Milbar model 7W is what you want (or Snap-On WTG8A if you want to spend even more).
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Yes, that's what I was getting at... Milbar now has a model with one-hand locking.

This is a Snap-On video but I'm 99% sure the pliers shown here are actually made by Milbar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnocxjAS_7Y
Ah, that looks good. Thanks!
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Hmmm... interesting and thought-provoking observations here.

I purchased a couple of sets of cheapo made-in-China pliers. They work, ok, sort of.

I also have a pair of 6" reversible Milbar pliers. They work, ok, sort of.

I find the lock on the cheapo ones is MUCH easier to engage, and its engagement is much more reliable. Definitely better than the Milbar lock.

The rotation of the cheapo ones isn't as smooth as the Milbar.

The jaw shape of both the cheapo and Milbar pliers leave a lot to be desired. In fact I'd like a set with no wire cutter function as more than once I've managed to destroy the wire by inadvertently getting it far enough into the jaw to contact the cutting surface.

Oddly, my cheapo pliers open and close easily while my Milbar pliers are almost "two hand operation" stiff. I've oiled them and spent an hour in front of the TV just cycling the handles open and closed - they're still too tight for practical use. Clearly they will stay tight for more than my lifetime.

I always hand-twist in a clockwise direction - the Milbars let me match that direction when continuing the twist with the pliers. The reversible function of the Milbar pliers make them a clear winner.
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Old 06-25-2021, 10:28 PM
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looks like the price of high-end safety wire pliers is inching toward the low-end safety cable tools....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13379090936...SABEgKHNPD_BwE

HF can't be far behind :-)
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