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Old 11-09-2021, 08:55 AM
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Default Panel or Engine, which to order next

I am trying to decide whether I should order the engine or panel next. I have QB Wings and Fuselage on order. Ordered those in May 2021 still waiting. Seems like the next longest lead time is for a panel. Need to check with Stein
and Aerotronics. Last I checked with Lycoming their lead was 6 monthish.

Seems like getting panel and finishing wiring then hanging engine is way to go. Thoughts?
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:09 AM
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I am trying to decide whether I should order the engine or panel next. I have QB Wings and Fuselage on order. Ordered those in May 2021 still waiting. Seems like the next longest lead time is for a panel. Need to check with Stein
and Aerotronics. Last I checked with Lycoming their lead was 6 monthish.

Seems like getting panel and finishing wiring then hanging engine is way to go. Thoughts?
Engine prices are going up, and panel components are going down. I'd buy the engine.
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Old 11-09-2021, 09:32 AM
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You need the engine to do the cowl and baffles. Order the engine.

If you do not have a prop hub to fit the cowl, then order the prop when you order the engine. I used an old Hartzell hub for cowl fit on the last two RVs even though I had the prop - it made the fit up easier as there where no blades to go around (or hit with my head).

There is no wait time if you make your own panel. Donít assume it as too hard - if you can build an RV you can make your own panel. EFIS network designs make wiring straight forward. The side benefit is you then know it so maintenance, updates and modifications are done by you, not some kid at the local avionics shop.

You will be surprised how often you will want to modify the panel. For RVs this can be just a new $28 piece of aluminum from Vanís, some time cutting holes and paint, or several $K to have someone else do it.

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Old 11-09-2021, 10:50 AM
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So many dependencies on FWF. Engine first. If you order electronics first, the warranty clock wll be ticking while you work FWF. Sounds like you don't have a fuse yet either so there's lots to do ti finish the fuse before FWF. Canopy takes time even on a 14.
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Old 11-09-2021, 11:43 AM
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Or both if you have the budget? Engines can run 6-12 months. My panel was supposed to be delivered 8-10 months after I made the first payment, but it is looking like 14 months. Both have such long lead times that if you can order both, and then work on whichever comes, might help you keep going.
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Old 11-09-2021, 11:55 AM
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I ordered both as the lead time on the engine was 3-4 months back in 2013.
I had the panel finished just in time to hang the engine and start the CHT, EGT, temp and pressure wiring.
I would say do the panel first but ordering depends on lead times.
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Old 11-09-2021, 12:07 PM
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Or both if you have the budget? Engines can run 6-12 months. My panel was supposed to be delivered 8-10 months after I made the first payment, but it is looking like 14 months. Both have such long lead times that if you can order both, and then work on whichever comes, might help you keep going.
If it takes 14 months to get a panel done, why not do it yourself. Will save 13 months and several thousand dollars. As Carl mentioned, its not that hard.

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Old 11-09-2021, 12:47 PM
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If it takes 14 months to get a panel done, why not do it yourself. Will save 13 months and several thousand dollars. As Carl mentioned, its not that hard.

Larry
That was the original plan. But the discounts from a package deal pay for the cost of someone else doing it. And I have plenty of other stuff to keep working on before it comes. I'm not exactly sitting around pining for it.
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Old 11-09-2021, 12:53 PM
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That was the original plan. But the discounts from a package deal pay for the cost of someone else doing it. And I have plenty of other stuff to keep working on before it comes. I'm not exactly sitting around pining for it.
My experience is ordering all the avionic components as a package deal provided such discounts as well. Here Stein is a rock star!

Do not overlook the benefit of doing the work yourself. The knowledge gained pays dividends for as long as you own the plane.

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