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01-13-2021, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Fraud Alert for Registration Renewal
Yesterday I got my Registration renewal notice. I thought, it would be easier to just google "renew aircraft registration" and pick it there. Bad idea
Here is the first URL
https://nationalaviationcenter.us/fa...oaAg4LEALw_wcB
Look for yourself. It seems official, even has a label of NEW at the top. It has a place for entering my/your security code which would give them access to the real FAA site. Where they could transfer my airplane or cancel my number.
And - - they want $65, not $5 for the same thing, even if it was honest.
I sent a complaint to the FAA via my local Legislative Representative. A friend got a letter wanting the same thing. I can only think they sucked his address from the publicly available information.
Let's just say I am not happy about this misuse of my information posted publicly, without my consent.
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RV-7
Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
Last edited by BillL : 01-13-2021 at 01:21 PM.
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01-13-2021, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillL
Let's just say I am not happy about this misuse of my information posted publicly, without my consent.
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01-13-2021, 01:52 PM
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This has come up before. Not new.
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01-13-2021, 02:36 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillL
I sent a complaint to the FAA via my local Legislative Representative. A friend got a letter wanting the same thing. I can only think they sucked his address from the publicly available information.
Let's just say I am not happy about this misuse of my information posted publicly, without my consent.
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It continues to mystify me that the FAA makes aircraft registration information including addresses public. States haven't done this with auto registrations for years (here in CA, it was privatized after someone murdered an actress using her address that he got from DMV). I don't understand why.
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01-13-2021, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillL
Yesterday I got my Registration renewal notice. I thought, it would be easier to just google "renew aircraft registration" and pick it there. Bad idea
Here is the first URL
https://nationalaviationcenter.us/fa...oaAg4LEALw_wcB
Look for yourself. It seems official, even has a label of NEW at the top. It has a place for entering my/your security code which would give them access to the real FAA site. Where they could transfer my airplane or cancel my number.
And - - they want $65, not $5 for the same thing, even if it was honest.
I sent a complaint to the FAA via my local Legislative Representative. A friend got a letter wanting the same thing. I can only think they sucked his address from the publicly available information.
Let's just say I am not happy about this misuse of my information posted publicly, without my consent.
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So I'm a bit confused by your description. Was your registration renewal notice from the FAA or from the "service provider". I think the FAA renewal notice has a URL right on it, but if not it's very easy to find the registration renewal link at www.faa.gov, under "License and Certificates" and "Aircraft Certification". Sometimes just taking the lazy route and trying to use Google for something like this is asking for trouble.
Skylor
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01-13-2021, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: central Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillL
Yesterday I got my Registration renewal notice. I thought, it would be easier to just google "renew aircraft registration" and pick it there. Bad idea
Here is the first URL
https://nationalaviationcenter.us/fa...oaAg4LEALw_wcB
Look for yourself. It seems official, even has a label of NEW at the top. It has a place for entering my/your security code which would give them access to the real FAA site. Where they could transfer my airplane or cancel my number.
And - - they want $65, not $5 for the same thing, even if it was honest.
I sent a complaint to the FAA via my local Legislative Representative. A friend got a letter wanting the same thing. I can only think they sucked his address from the publicly available information.
Let's just say I am not happy about this misuse of my information posted publicly, without my consent.
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I've always been surprised that aircraft and airman registration and certification data is so readily available.
They do have a disclaimer at the bottom...but it's easily overlooked. There is similar obfuscation by a couple of "registration" companies on the drone registration side of the FAA.
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© 2021 National Aviation Center. All Rights Reserved. National Aviation Center is NOT the FAA or the Federal Aviation Administration; we are a third party private agency that handles FAA Registration processing to the Federal Aviation Administration
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01-13-2021, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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Originally Posted by skylor
So I'm a bit confused by your description. Was your registration renewal notice from the FAA or from the "service provider". I think the FAA renewal notice has a URL right on it, but if not it's very easy to find the registration renewal link at www.faa.gov, under "License and Certificates" and "Aircraft Certification". Sometimes just taking the lazy route and trying to use Google for something like this is asking for trouble.
Skylor
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I so stated in the OP, this is to alert others of it's existence. I am waiting for the letter to come.
I also went to BBB and it had 26 comments with a 1 star rating - the lowest that can be submitted.
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Bill
RV-7
Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
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01-13-2021, 05:05 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 2,398
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I get a similar scam for renewing an LLC, something like $85 for what, in MN, is free at the state's SOS website.
I also got that scam a/c registration letter.
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01-13-2021, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillL
I so stated in the OP, this is to alert others of it's existence. I am waiting for the letter to come.
I also went to BBB and it had 26 comments with a 1 star rating - the lowest that can be submitted.
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By the way, I do agree that it's annoying that FAA registration and certificate data can be accessed so easily and be taken advantage of by unscrupulous businesses like this. I too received one of those bogus renewal letters from this company the last time mine was up for renewal and it went straight into the trash!
Skylor
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