Just one other note. I've owned two 8s. One was an 0-360 with a composite fixed pitch prop. In other words, it had an empty CG further aft than my current 8 which is an IO-360 angle valve with a Hartzell metal CS prop which has an empty CG right on the forward limit. I very much prefer the second airplane. Everything that goes into it ( nose baggage excepted) moves the CG aft so, as soon as I sit down in the cockpit, the CG is fine. Fuel does the same. Passengers and rear baggage even more. The big difference is that this airplane doesn't seem to suffer from that landing "twitchiness" that my first 8 did. Landing that aft cg airplane, with someone in the rear, took a whole different technique.