Private Pilot exercising Sport Pilot Privileges

[kritsher]

This question came up during my BFR:

I am a private pilot with a lapsed medical, exercising my sport pilot privileges to fly my RV-12. FAR 61.315 states that sport pilots cannot fly into class B, C, or D airspace without specific training and a logbook endorsement.

Question: does my private pilot certificate satisfy the requirement for that training and endorsement, allowing me to fly in those airspaces? OR, do I need to get a new, explicit endorsement stating that I can fly into those airspaces as a sport pilot?

 

[DGlaeser]

I believe your private pilot training and experience is sufficient.
That is what I've told other pilots doing the same thing.

 

[DanBaier]

Your Private Pilot certificate satisfies the requirements for training and documentation with a logbook endorsement.

Dan

 

[MartySantic]

A logbook endorsement is NOT required. The private certificate satisfies the requirement.

 

[BobTurner]

The answer is found in 61.303. Read thru the table carefully; you are exempt from the limitation on class B, C, D airspace.

 

[Mel]

All of the above! Keep on trucking'!

My question is; Didn't the instructor know this?

 

[kritsher]

Thanks guys. That's what I thought. This was a CFI I had never before flown with and he had almost no LSA experience. He seemed to have some of the sport pilot and recreational pilot limitations confused. By the time I had explained to him that I COULD go more than 50 miles and that I could NOT fly at night We were both too confused to sort out the airspace question!

 

[yankee-flyer]

Been doin'it that way for four years

Based on input from AOPA legal advisors in 2010.

Wayne 120241/12143WM flying since Sept 2010 (and on 3rd fuel tank mod!)

Thanks guys. That's what I thought. This was a CFI I had never before flown with and he had almost no LSA experience. He seemed to have some of the sport pilot and recreational pilot limitations confused. By the time I had explained to him that I COULD go more than 50 miles and that I could NOT fly at night We were both too confused to sort out the airspace question!

 

[VETE76]

if you have no medical what makes things the items in it legal? i thought no med, no ppl.

 

[BobTurner]

if you have no medical what makes things the items in it legal? i thought no med, no ppl.

Read 61.303. The rational is that the pvt license is the same as the sport+endorsements.

 

[DonFromTX]

Another way to look at it that I earned my PP license, which included all those things, and have never lost it. The only thing changed is that instead of a medical, I can now use my drivers license in lieu of a medical. That does carry with it the night prohibition, altitude restriction, type aircraft, etc.