Stdlibelle
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Anyone familiar with what I should expect to pay for this service. I cannot take the time right now from my business.
Technically.... a private pilot can only share expenses. If the flight does not cost him/her something it is probably in violation of the FARs. Even providing 'free flight time' is compensation in the FAA's view. Now this rule is probably 'stretched' every day in multiple ways.The idea of someone who's retired (like me) doing the job for *only* expenses does raise a question for aviation lawyers. If someone did the flight for no actual compensation, but all expenses were covered, is it a commercial operation requiring a commercial ticket, 2nd class medical, etc?
If the pilot took an extra day or two & did a bit of sightseeing at his own expense, would that change the answer?
In my past commercial endeavors, I have always been amazed at what people expect to pay. If you can find someone who is a private pilot and wants to do something for fun, then by all means go that way.
If you want to hire someone who is a professional pilot, then be prepared to pay for that service. A day rate of $250 plus expenses is well within the boundaries of fair and reasonable.
Think of what it takes to achieve the level of competence you are contracting for the person to do, while being at some risk and away from home.
Now, the four to five day estimate is a little high, but not absurd, just cautious.
My 2 cents...
Don
Ken,
If you hire a professional pilot, expect to add him/her to your insurance coverage. Most agencies will do that. However, most people don't understand that your insurance will cover YOU when someone authorized is flying your airplane. If something happens they will cover YOU, and then turn around and seek damages from the authorized pilot. Subrogation is the term.
If I were to fly your aircraft, I would want to be a NAMED INSURED on your policy. That way we are both entitled to insurance protection should something happen.
Don
Ken,
If I were to fly your aircraft, I would want to be a NAMED INSURED on your policy. That way we are both entitled to insurance protection should something happen. So far, there has never been an added cost to add me to an insurance policy because of my high time and experience.
An insurance expert on the forum may chime in and correct me if I'm wrong. I have personal knowledge of an instructor offering a BFR for a customer in an Arrow. The pilot landed a wee bit short of a runway during the BFR having performed an unexpected move. The insurance company paid for the damage, and then sued the instructor for the cost. They lost, but the cost to defend was huge.
Do ferry pilots carry insurance? I think it would be hugely expensive to do so. Maybe a ferry pilot will chime in and let us know.
I apologize in advance for the thread drift...
Don
In my past commercial endeavors, I have always been amazed at what people expect to pay. If you can find someone who is a private pilot and wants to do something for fun, then by all means go that way.
If you want to hire someone who is a professional pilot, then be prepared to pay for that service. A day rate of $250 plus expenses is well within the boundaries of fair and reasonable.
Think of what it takes to achieve the level of competence you are contracting for the person to do, while being at some risk and away from home.
Now, the four to five day estimate is a little high, but not absurd, just cautious.
My 2 cents...
Don
Thanks for all the good advice and offers to ferry. This plane has been sitting outside for a number of years and the prepurchase inspection has yet to be done. I was trying to get some numbers to figure this into the equation on whether to repair it there or have it disassembled and trucked to Indiana. I have a lot of paperwork to get done with the executor of the estate before this can proceed. I will post a help wanted add on this forum if it turns out to be flyable.
Ken
Where in Calif is the plane located??
If close to the Stockton area, you might want to get hold of Craig Vincent-----he does exactly what you are looking for.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/member.php?u=4499
I doubt you need to pay for a "pro". I ferried two airplanes and the pilot did it for expenses. The pilot was a CFI at our local airport. They are looking to build time. So I paid, gas, meals, airfare for return, hotel. On one of the flights I went along and paid for 5 hours of training while enroute, so he made some labor money during those 5 hours.
But unless you going out of the country, or flying an iffy airplane, a local CFI would probably do it. Or a retired RV pilot. I'm close to retiring and if I was I'd do it for expenses. It would be a paid vacation. Might include wife in those expenses, but she doesn't eat much.