Dynon opinions

Fenderbean said:

Besides a Garmin 650/750 GPS, can you use anything else from Garmin with the Dynon? Specifically the autopilot controller and com panel? I personally don't like the dynon designs, just an opinion im sure they work fantastic.

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I plan on using the Garmin GPS 175, interfacing through the Dynon ARINC 429. there are many options that interface through that, Dynon lists the third party navigators and radios that are supported in their documentation, I don't have the comprehensive list, but its not small. The autopilot panel is optional (although highly recommended). the COM panel is required if you use the Dynon Com, but that is optional as well, a Garmin 650 can interface with the Dynon, but I don't think you get the fancy EFIS COM interactions that are native with the Dynon Radio.

Fenderbean said:

Besides a Garmin 650/750 GPS, can you use anything else from Garmin with the Dynon? Specifically the autopilot controller and com panel? I personally don't like the dynon designs, just an opinion im sure they work fantastic.

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I don’t know, but I would never want to try. Why mess with the nice Trig intergrated comm and Dynon autopilot by jury rigging in Garmin boxes?

I fly IFR 90% of the time, using a full SkyView dual EFIS panel with the GTN-650. I find the Dynon radio (made by Trig) to be superior to the stand alone Garmin offerings (either remote mounted or panel mounted) as it has better front end receiver selectivity.

But I will say for the panel waiting to go into the new RV-10 I’m using a G5 as a backup instead of a stand alone analog airspeed instrument. The G5 gets a direct feed from the GTN-650.

Carl

Carl Froehlich said:

I don’t know, but I would never want to try. Why mess with the nice Trig intergrated comm and Dynon autopilot by jury rigging in Garmin boxes?

I fly IFR 90% of the time, using a full SkyView dual EFIS panel with the GTN-650. I find the Dynon radio (made by Trig) to be superior to the stand alone Garmin offerings (either remote mounted or panel mounted) as it has better front end receiver selectivity.

But I will say for the panel waiting to go into the new RV-10 I’m using a G5 as a backup instead of a stand alone analog airspeed instrument. The G5 gets a direct feed from the GTN-650.

Carl

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Um being bias while flying a garmin GPS seems like a contradiction?

I'd never seen any of them fired up. But reading the pilot's manuals, it appeared to me that the Dynon ones were going to be easier for me to use.

Also, I could read and make sense of the very clear installation manuals - Garmin, too, were good.

I looked at MGL and GRT and for both of those the install manuals suffered by comparison at that time. Perhaps they've changed, it's too late not to revisit it. And that was before AFS was bought by Dynon. Also a friend used an MGL EFIS on his non-RV, and had headaches with the installation. A contributing factor was Dynon's free data compared to Garmin's paid data.

I chose a Trig com and transponder because it was then lighter than than Dynon's. Note that now Trig has a newer Transponder and is owned by Dynon.

Dave

For me the choice was made. It came with dual dynonq10 (not touch). I have never flown glass before. And usually have very poor luck with computers. But I know I have to get on board with glass as that is the present and future! Especially downloading updates to the maps and things. They intimidates me.

Where is the best training on how to use and practice pinching buttons and twisting knobs? Are there specific YouTube videos or is anything on Dynon site for training the best.

I just bought the plane a week or two ago. And I am going through the plane and making things the way I want them. Have not flown as I am not satisfied with the tailwheel.

The transition will go easier if I get and feel familiar with how to work they Dynon’s first and get used to seeing the PFD and reading info on tapes and not analog steam gauges.

CFItom said:

For me the choice was made. It came with dual dynonq10 (not touch). I have never flown glass before. And usually have very poor luck with computers. But I know I have to get on board with glass as that is the present and future! Especially downloading updates to the maps and things. They intimidates me.

Where is the best training on how to use and practice pinching buttons and twisting knobs? Are there specific YouTube videos or is anything on Dynon site for training the best.

I just bought the plane a week or two ago. And I am going through the plane and making things the way I want them. Have not flown as I am not satisfied with the tailwheel.

The transition will go easier if I get and feel familiar with how to work they Dynon’s first and get used to seeing the PFD and reading info on tapes and not analog steam gauges.

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If you can figure out an iPad, you will have no problem. There are videos to watch as well as the SkyView Pilot Guide. Get yourself a nice 30 amp regulated power supply to hook up the battery(s) and do some hangar flying.

If you also have a new TSO GPS navigator, spend your time studying that! As example, the GTN-650 I fly with from time to time shows the published hold on the wrong side, and hold in minutes not miles (same issue happened on a buddy’s GTN-650 on the same approach). The button smashing to fix this while doing the approach is not trivial so I now do an early check on what the GTN-650 says against the paper published approach, and practice the button smashing to fix it.

Carl

Carl Froehlich said:

As example, the GTN-650 I fly with from time to time shows the published hold on the wrong side

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If that's really true, then you should report it so it can be investigated.

CFItom said:

For me the choice was made. It came with dual dynonq10 (not touch). I have never flown glass before. And usually have very poor luck with computers. But I know I have to get on board with glass as that is the present and future! Especially downloading updates to the maps and things. They intimidates me.

Where is the best training on how to use and practice pinching buttons and twisting knobs? Are there specific YouTube videos or is anything on Dynon site for training the best.

I just bought the plane a week or two ago. And I am going through the plane and making things the way I want them. Have not flown as I am not satisfied with the tailwheel.

The transition will go easier if I get and feel familiar with how to work they Dynon’s first and get used to seeing the PFD and reading info on tapes and not analog steam gauges.

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I transitioned to Dynon’s SkyVew Touch in my current RV-8 years ago by viewing the old training seminar videos that Dynon put up on their YouTube channel. These coupled with the Pilot’s User Guide and the System Installation Guide were quite helpful. Note that the Touch and Classic (non-touch) are very similar. The later HDX is quite different from those.

Here are some direct links to the basic video training playlists. As you go through the videos, it’s helpful to have a print copy of the SkyView display to refer to.





Then find a piece of uncrowded airspace (higher altitude helps here) and experiment with the different functions. A safety pilot to look for traffic helps. Know how to disconnect the AP and and where the servo CB's or power switches are, in case the AP disconnect fails. Know where your control surface trim CB’s are too.

If it helps your transition, you can use the 'six-pack' feature of the SkyView display initially, and then switch to the tapes. Screenshot from my RV-8:

I flew glass cockpit in the military so thats not an issue, I am just curios at this point the real differences between the dynon and ADF. Besides the GPS, and possible auto pilot controller Garmin just doesnt really do it for me. I will def go for the 12" screens over the 10s which is another perk for Dynon/ADF. PEople mentioned going with Dynon over ADF due to the EMS side of the two, can anyone expand on this since both have an engine monitor system. THanks