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Old 03-20-2012, 07:55 PM
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Default RV-10 Carpet

This might be of interest to a few RV-10 builders.
Light weight and low cost solution to carpeting your RV-10.
The goal was to carpet only where your feet rest plus the baggage compartment.
Total weight for all carpets including fire retardant and velcro 7 lb 8 oz.
Total cost including same as above
Walmart area rug 4 pieces 3'x5' $60.-
Local upholstery shop edge binding $75.-
Aircraft Spruce fire retardant $20.-
Spray glue $10.-
Remnant commercial carpet for padding, free. Total cost $ 165.-
Making the patterns was probably the most time consuming part and all in all it took about 6 hours to make.

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Old 03-20-2012, 09:26 PM
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Default Nice

Great looking. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:24 AM
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Good to see you included fire retardant in your design. Many years ago as a young engineer I was involved in setting up a National Bureau of Standards Radiant Panel Carpet Flammability Test at work. Seeing those tests made me more aware of how quickly carpet fires can spread not to mention the sometimes toxic gasses given off.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:00 PM
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So how flammable is the spray adhesive?
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:45 PM
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If you have not yet tried it I would take some scraps that have been sprayed with retardant and see how they behave when introduced to fire. The carpets look great, just make sure they are safe, a retardant might not give you much time.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:58 PM
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which fire retardant did you use from spruce..been looking online but didn't find it.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:21 PM
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Default Nice job!

Looks really clean and professional! Nicely done!
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:09 PM
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Default Thank you

I suppose no carpet is truly fire resistant and the best course of action is probably fire prevention. In fact, all of my efforts to keep fire away go into fire prevention.
I did try to burn a piece of the carpet using a propane torch and although the carpet did not flash into an inferno it did support a flame and made some nasty smoke.
Inspecta Shield is what I used and a treated sample is ready for a burn test.
I am not expecting a miracle from this product but any slowing down of a spreading fire would be better than nothing.
The burn test will simply be a side by side comparison of a treated and an untreated sample. I'll post my findings.
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Old 04-03-2012, 05:30 PM
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Unhappy Burn test

Non scientific burn test FWIW.
Sample on the left treated with fire retardant and the one on the right without.

Link for burn video

I am not terribly impressed with my carpet choices here and the fire retardant is less effective than I expected. The fire retardant does somewhat slow the progress of the fire but not nearly what I expected.
I have nothing to compare, so this test is just an illustration of how flamable
the carpet really is. Again, the best course of action is fire prevention. Anyone got any real good ideas for fire proof carpet?
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:01 PM
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First, I applaud your quest for safety. That being said, what scenario are you trying to protect against here? Are there any exposed electrical wires in contact with the carpet? Are you or your passengers in-flight smokers? Short of that, Im not sure how flame-proof carpet is going to be of any use here. I would think that any fire that starts outside of the cabin is going to have profound ill effects on your flight before penetrating into the cabin and burning carpet. To be blunt, if it gets to the point where carpet will start to burn, Im not sure you will be in a state to care anymore.

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