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Old 06-09-2020, 01:20 AM
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Default Private Airstrip Zoning

It's really no surprise I'm looking to the VAF community for help with this, throughout my build and beyond the people and advice have really made things happen for me.

I rushed my "special use zoning permit" to the county just before they shut their doors due to the Covid several months ago. Depending on weather/farmer/contractor I would like to break ground next fall through next summer.

We purchased our property to build a house, airstrip and hangar on. Now we just need to make it happen. I've planned out the runway with a dirt contractor who used to be on the county planning commission and was also approved by the airport coffee drinkers association. I'm attempting to do this right for the long term, I want this runway to be there for a LONG time and need the paperwork to be in order.

It's now happening fast, the letters to the neighbors already went out and the commission meeting is next week. We've already delivered my wife's famous homemade cinnamon rolls and visited with all those affected by the zoning change except 2 which are out of town. I think this portion on the zoning application is a "go."

I'm not a lawyer but the initial planning commission findings are very favorable:



But Conditions 2, 4 seem rather restrictive, the rest I would comply with 150%.



I'm not too worried about 4, depending on their interpretation of "initiated and utilized" I can bribe a friend with a Cub to land anytime or drag some dirt with my old Allis WD.

Condition 2 worries me. A landing strip just for "family members" doesn't seem reasonable, I'm sure I don't have to explain this the the VAF people. One adjacent neighbor has already checked into flight training and his brother in law flys a Pa-32 around. I'm not sure if a logical explanation will suffice to the county or if I need to get a lawyer. I'ld really like to handle this on my own, partly $$ but mostly because I don't think any local lawyer would have the proper knowledge and definitely not the heart of the matter in mind.

A restriction to just family members seems unreasonable for a private airstrip, I'ld like to think I have a lot of airplane friends that would want to stop by. Realistically that's a handful a year, maybe doubling the 3-6 operations a month on average.

I would definitely appreciate thoughts and advice from those that have gone before me.

Thanks!
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Old 06-09-2020, 01:47 AM
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I have not gone before you, but I would ask the county....

If I was applying for a permit to build a driveway to my house, would it be restricted to family member use only??
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Old 06-09-2020, 02:39 AM
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I think 2 should be more like:

2: The landing strip shall be limited for use as a private landing strip for family members or users pre-authorized by family members.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:14 AM
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Question "Private" VS "Public"

I think the intent is to prevent future public use, so how about inserting: Family Members (& Their Guests).
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:54 AM
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The reason for #2 may be based on state aeronautical code. It would be in Alabama, where the code spells out different land requirements and licensing for public and family use.

For reference, here are the relevant code sections. The airport license is granted the by the Dept of Transportation; municipal or county permission, including zoning, is a separate matter.

(b) Private Use Airport that is used primarily by the licensee but available for use by others upon specific invitation of the licensee. To be licensed in a private use category, an airport shall meet without exception the minimum standards of effective runway length of 1800 feet. The minimum usable runway width of 60 feet shall be applied for hard surface runways and a minimum usable runway width of 60 feet shall be applied to turf or sod runways. Invitation of licensee refers to a specific offer and acceptance type of invitation, not an invitation offered to the general public. A holder of a private airport license cannot advertise in a newspaper or other publication that all airplane owners or certain aircraft type owners are invited to be the licensee?s guest at this private airport. An invitation to land on or use the facilities of a private airport must consist of an invitation and a response. Communications between individuals, not a general offer to come to the airport, must exist.

(b) Personal-Use airports are not required to be licensed. A Personal-Use airport is a restricted landing area on private property, designated for the use of the property owner and his, or her immediate family.
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Old 06-09-2020, 07:43 AM
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1. Aren't we all just one big happy family ?
2. If your family wants to use the landing strip to have 20 friends over, is that not your family using it?
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Old 06-09-2020, 08:05 AM
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We are all just brothers and sisters in Christ. :-)

Dan, I am alway impressed by your responses, knowledgable and with references.
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Old 06-09-2020, 08:10 AM
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1. Aren't we all just one big happy family ?
2. If your family wants to use the landing strip to have 20 friends over, is that not your family using it?
Sadly it does not work that way. One outside person complains that the strip is being operated outside of the permitted rules and they can get it shut down. Better to fix the issue upfront as others have suggested.
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Old 06-09-2020, 08:26 AM
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Are there any other private airports in your area----folks who could provide you some guidance? Someone who has actually "been there, done that".
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:00 AM
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Are there any other private airports in your area----folks who could provide you some guidance? Someone who has actually "been there, done that".
There are quite a few private airports in my area, All the owners in my county I've talked to have no idea about the county zoning. Most are on the sectional and haven't had any issues.
Half of the adjoining counties are very strict not allowing any new private airports and trying to zone the existing ones away. The other half aren't zoned and have no issues.
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