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Old 11-18-2015, 07:57 AM
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Default Garmin?s new GAD 27 interface module pairs with G3X? Touch to streamline (11/18/15)

...and add more capability!

We are pleased to announce this new product to complement our existing G3X Touch lineup! A summary of key characteristics and features are included below. For additional details, see the updated Rev V installation manual which can be downloaded here. The GAD 27 is available today (stocked and ready to ship!) with an advertised price of $499!



The GAD 27 is a small, lightweight, solid-state controller that replaces multiple adapter modules, simplifying your installation while giving you added capabilities and control through integration with your G3X Touch system, all while providing cost savings over multiple individual adapter modules. Key features include:
  • Programmable Flap Controller - Discrete flap positions are easily programmed from the G3X Touch display to conveniently control the flap motor and to automatically drive the flaps to pre-programmed positions based on pilot input. Additionally, with airspeed inhibit, the system also helps protect the airframe by preventing inadvertent flap deployment at high airspeeds.
  • Programmable Lighting Circuits - The addition of one to three dimmer knobs provide input to the GAD 27 and can be mapped to any of the six configurable lighting circuits, offering additional lighting options when configuring a G3X Touch installation. Pilots may assign specific dimming functions to individual knobs, which are all programmed on the G3X Touch display. Preset lighting options, including avionics lights, map lights, interior light circuits and more, are all pilot-configurable for installation and operational convenience.
  • Wig-Wag Lights - For added visibility in-flight, the GAD 27 provides configuration of the landing and taxi lighting system via the G3X Touch flight display. Compatible with all light installations including HID and LED, the GAD 27 offers optional control to alternately flash up to two lights, commonly referred to as “wig-wag” lighting, which can be switch activated or automatically turned on/off based on airspeed. Pilots may also configure a warm-up time before starting the wig-wag function to protect lamps that require a warm-up period.
  • Voltage Stabilizer - Essential avionics receive stable power during engine start without the need for a back-up battery when integrating the GAD 27 adapter into a new or existing avionics installation. Sufficient power is provided to operate a single G3X Touch display, ADAHRS module and engine interface module with probes.
  • Aircraft Trim Switch Mixing - The GAD 27 accepts trim switch inputs from both the pilot and co-pilot controls to provide trim mixing capability. Switches used on the pilot/co-pilot controls are connected to simple discrete inputs and no longer supply trim motor power or control relays. Additionally, the GAD 27 can provide direct drive of the trim motors if there is not a GSA 28 servo installed (NOTE: If GSA 28 servos are installed with the GAD 27, trim switch inputs will be connected to the GAD 27 and trim motor drive will be provided by the servo).
  • Additional Discrete Inputs – The GAD 27 expands on the 4 discrete inputs available with the GEA 24 engine/airframe interface adapter. Now with the GAD 27, 9 more configurable discrete inputs are available in the G3X Touch system for monitoring additional systems.

Below are some examples of the on screen setup for external lights, the flap controller and interior lighting. As usual, if you have any questions, please reach out to your Garmin dealer, or contact us directly using the information in our signature below.







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Old 11-19-2015, 10:05 AM
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Smile A little over kill for the RV-12

A little over kill for the RV-12 Any thoughts?
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Old 11-19-2015, 10:33 AM
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I have been planning a G3X setup with a vertical power pro. It seems like this does some of what the VP Pro does, flaps, Wig-Wag, etc. Outside of electronic breakers, with this as part of a system, does the VP Pro still make sense?
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Old 11-19-2015, 11:52 AM
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A little over kill for the RV-12 Any thoughts?
Hello Redbaron,

Good question.

We believe RV-12s are generally installing a battery backup system for several hundred dollars to keep everything running during engine start.

If you covered that function with the GAD 27 voltage stabilizer (keep alive) function and then added features like cockpit lighting control and even flashing recognition lights, it could start to make sense.

Let us know if you have additional questions.

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Old 11-19-2015, 12:11 PM
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I have been planning a G3X setup with a vertical power pro. It seems like this does some of what the VP Pro does, flaps, Wig-Wag, etc. Outside of electronic breakers, with this as part of a system, does the VP Pro still make sense?
G3expert,
Do you have an answer for greenley' post??
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Old 11-19-2015, 12:37 PM
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I have been planning a G3X setup with a vertical power pro. It seems like this does some of what the VP Pro does, flaps, Wig-Wag, etc. Outside of electronic breakers, with this as part of a system, does the VP Pro still make sense?
Hello Bill,

While we recognized that we would probably be asked to compare the GAD 27 with other devices on the market, we want to preface our statements here by saying that we in no way want this to be taken as criticism of anyone else's device.

Please correct us if we are wrong, but we think you are asking whether or not it still makes sense to install the other device AFTER installing the GAD 27.

This is probably a question only you can answer depending on how important you consider the ECB functionality to your installation.

Due to the high level of integration with G3X Touch including the ability to configure everything without a laptop, you will probably want to use all of the GAD 27 functions which overlap with the other device, which primarily only leaves the ECB functionality.

Additionally, of course, with the GAD 27 you gain a really capable cockpit lighting controller and additional input discretes - functions not provided by the other device.

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Old 11-19-2015, 08:12 PM
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How many flap positions can be programmed. Can a zero flap and a reflex flap position be programmed in. If you have the GSA 28 servos for both pitch and roll, are the Ray Allen trim servos activated via the Garmin servos and are any position sensors required. Thanks
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Old 11-19-2015, 09:20 PM
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That's funny.
I was at NBAA in Vegas this week and came by the Garmin booth just to see what was new when I had a moment. I was looking at the display with the G3X touch setup and one of your representatives was talking to another attendee. He asked if the setup could control the flaps and the rep said yes. From what I had been reading I didn't think that was the case. Turns out he was right, if only by a few days.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:23 AM
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How many flap positions can be programmed. Can a zero flap and a reflex flap position be programmed in. If you have the GSA 28 servos for both pitch and roll, are the Ray Allen trim servos activated via the Garmin servos and are any position sensors required. Thanks
Hello Togaflyer,

The software supports up to 8 flap positions, so you shouldn't run out.

Yes, a reflex flap position is supported. For example, you could define flap positions of -5 degs, 0 degs, 20 degs (partial flaps), and 45 degs (full flaps).

Airspeed limiting using user defined partial and full flap speed limits come into play when you attempt to extend the flaps below the zero position, but you can move from a reflex position to zero or retract the flaps at any airspeed. Any defined flap position between zero and full flaps follows the partial flap speed limit.

Below are the flap airspeed limits we use on our RV-7A.



Yes, the GSA 28 pitch and roll servos will connect to and drive Ray Allen trim motors. When the autopilot is disengaged, the servos will follow the pilot/copilot trim signals and provide speed scheduling (move the trim motors slow at high airspeed and faster at low airspeeds). When the autopilot is engaged, the servos will drive the trim motors to keep the plane in trim at all times. When it comes time to disengage the autopilot, the airplane will already be in trim when you take over control.

The autopilot servos don't actually need or use a trim position sensor signal, but you will probably want to use the trim position sensors so you can see the trim position displayed on the PFD.

Let us know if you have additional questions.

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Old 11-20-2015, 12:03 PM
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Default Third party radio support

Hi g3xpert

Is there any intention to support third party remote mounted 8.33 radios ? For example the trig unit.

Or even release a Garmin remote unit so that the system is fully integrated like the remote transponder unit offers.

I am currently trying to spec out my panel and would like it to have a similar look to the integrated G1000.
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