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Old 12-16-2021, 11:47 AM
Indycanard Indycanard is offline
 
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Default Big Kit price Increases Dec 15, 2021

Yesterday, Dec 15, 2021 Van's posted significant price increases on all kits.

https://www.vansaircraft.com/order-a...nd-lead-times/

I didn't evaluate all the models, but a quick calculation on the RV-10 and 14 show significant increases vs the previous prices.


Percentage Increase on Dec 15.
RV-10 RV-14 (IO360/390A) RV-14A (IO360/390A)
Empennage/Tail 9% 10% 10%
Wing 10% 10% 10%
Fuselage 11% 11% 10%
Finishing 16% 11% 11%
Standard Kits – Total 12% 10% 12%
QuickBuild Kits – Total 17% 18% 17%
New Totals
QuickBuild Kits – Total $77,125.00 $59,775.00 $60,840.00

Sorry the formatting is bad.

Henry
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Apologies to Greg and Vans for providing the incorrect numbers above. Those were based on the January 2021 to December 15 2021 price changes. There was an interim price increase in August 2021. An accurate picture of the past years' price increases for the RV-10 only is as follows. I've broken out the two increases separately.
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Old 12-16-2021, 12:32 PM
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Edit: See Greg Hughes's post with some corrected numbers Here

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                        RV-10      RV-14 (IO360/390A)  RV-14A (IO360/390A)
Empennage/Tail          9%         10%                 10%
Wing                    10%        10%                 10%
Fuselage                11%        11%                 10%
Finishing               16%        11%                 11%
Standard Kits – Total   12%        10%                 12%
QuickBuild Kits – Total 17%        18%                 17%
New Totals
QuickBuild Kits – Total $77,125.00 $59,775.00          $60,840.0
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Old 12-16-2021, 12:37 PM
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Just great. I spent a couple of weeks going over the RV-10 finish kit to delete stuff but did not yet send it in. I would have saved more money just getting the kit as is.

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Old 12-16-2021, 12:37 PM
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Makes me glad I have everything on order from them except finishing kit. I was expecting something like this.
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Old 12-16-2021, 12:40 PM
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+1 I had the same premonition
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Makes me glad I have everything on order from them except finishing kit. I was expecting something like this.
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Old 12-16-2021, 12:54 PM
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Default Throwing in the towel. Sorry for the soapbox rant

I think I am done. It pains me to say that.
This is the second increase this year and this one is big. Also the engine price increase, as well as other items combined with absolutely horrid delays and poor communication has all but put this project out of reach for a small player like me. That is tragic. I absolutely love the 10. It would really suit my mission and I am not looking forward to flying my Cherokee forever. Since the time I finally sold the idea to my wife the project has changed dramatically. Experimental is where I want to be for many reasons but this is too much.
It's really too bad that I have closed my side business and converted my shop to build the plane. I have spent thousands on tooling in prep for the build.
I ordered my emp kit in July with a promised 4 month lead on delivery. To date I have heard nothing from Vans. I understand their challenges of supply and labor, but feel they have not done a good job of putting their selves in my shoes by providing people with orders extending well beyond times promised a proper level of communication. While I do not know the details I cannot help but think that they are making a ton of money. The increases seem above the inflation level putting experimental now out of reach for the average aviation enthusiast. This sucks! I guess I will be looking for an upgrade to my Cherokee in certified and pay too much for an old plane instead.
Sincerely, Pi$$ed off
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:11 PM
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Holy smokes. That's a 13% increase in the RV-7 slow build.

What bothers me most is that this was done very quietly and at a time when the customer base frustration is probably highest.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:21 PM
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Wow,

I understand that costs are going up, but paying more for lower service and increased delivery times, does not bode well. I sure have some decisions to make.
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Old 12-16-2021, 01:56 PM
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Spend more for less. Isn’t that the new normal these days 😔
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Old 12-16-2021, 02:19 PM
Eric Minnis Eric Minnis is offline
 
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Not just Van's- it is everywhere. Vans has indeed done a crummy job with coms, at least in my experience.

The market will naturally find what it will bear then the manufacturers will be sitting on inventory if they are not careful. It's boats, airplanes, electronics, ATV's, etc. The supply chain is broken. The current admin. is clueless.

In many ways it may be a good course correction for us in the long run. We will find ways to be less wasteful and more creative in our hobbies. It is a goal for me to be less dependent on others and things like this reinforce that plan.

Vans is likely trying just like everyone else to protect its business and forecast costs accurately for a long lead time. I have to do the same with my business and have gotten burned because of it. My only option is to raise prices so I can be here next year.

Our economy is way more fragile than many realize. I see this economy in a position that a little bump could send it tumbling, hard.

Sorry to get a bit off topic.
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