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Old 05-09-2023, 01:19 PM
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I'm one that regularly trailers my RV-12. Been flying since August of 2015, currently at 430 hours, always trailered. The plane/trailer are stored in my shop at home. It works nicely for me, but it's not for everyone. Sure is nice not to pay for hangar rent, but I need help assembling everytime I fly. That's my biggest downside to the keep at home routine.
how often do you take it up?
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Old 05-09-2023, 01:46 PM
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Glad to get the link on the Aerotrek Trailer!

Just finished Section 31 "Fuselage Wiring Harness" and celebrating after spending many, many hours trying to attach the over rudder wireway.

I have tried to attach a photo that David Kroner (Ohio RV-12) was kind enough to share with me several years ago.

The trailer I really like is a custom Featherlite all-aluminum, including an extruded floor. I have had some back and forth with their engineering department and adjusted the tandem torsion axles to match the unusually light weight of the intended airplane cargo. I am trying to get something as compact and light weight as possible. I want as easy to tow and fuel-efficient as possible for several 8,000 mile road trips over 3 or 4 years. Along with the airplane I will only carry a couple of hundred pounds of tools, spares and maybe 30 gallons of fuel in the trailer. Not looking for a workshop or lounge plus airplane. Based on trailer dimensions the RV-12 will fit in a 22-foot-long trailer with a modest v-nose (plus tongue) and still have a little bit of room inside. Total weight I am shooting for is around 4,000 pounds which can be towed by a half-ton pickup or my 3/4 ton Silverado with a pop-up camper shell on the back.

I talked with Mark Sorenson a little at Sun-N-Fun 2023 about Arising Trailers and he has done many one-off aircraft trailers of required width. I visited the Alcom Trailer Factory in DeLand, Florida in April and the guy that runs their production line there built a bunch of RV-6 airplanes at Massey Air Ranch back in the day so he was interested. Alcom makes a nice trailer with adequate interior width but the ramp door and door frame would have to be reworked by the customer after delivery to get 98-inch width clear.

I believe that if a couple of us can agree on a "Standard RV-12 Trailer" we can find a factory to build it at some savings. Even if it is steel-framed with a plywood floor and no extras I am sure that it will be more than $20K. Interior fit-out to secure the airplane (by purchaser) is also sure to cost a couple of thousand dollars more.

Shaking the airplane to pieces is a real concern as is the potential for accidents. According to Dr. Bob Jones, who has traveled the country with his Kitfox in a trailer behind his camper van and given many talks at fly-ins, it can be done in ways to minimize risk. The benefits are very appealing to me. Here is an AOPA article about him: https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/...embly-required
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Old 05-09-2023, 04:24 PM
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I try to fly every week or two if possible. Sometimes I'm out of town working and not able to fly for 3-4 weeks at a time. I have not gone long enough to require a CFI checkout (90 days) since 2015 when I first flew my -12. We ( the Wingwalker and I, my most efficient helper) can have the plane ready to preflight in 11-12 minutes from the time we get stopped at the assembly area. Basically about the same time as opening hangar, fueling the plane and preflight, closing hangar door. My biggest impediment is finding a copilot in the COVID age.
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Old 05-09-2023, 04:41 PM
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What I would be afraid of is clearance of 8' stabilator inside trailer. Airplane will move around and stabilator will touch inside walls of trailer, even if braced. I think this would impart a lot of stress on the stabilator / tail cone assembly....
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Old 05-09-2023, 05:18 PM
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I try to fly every week or two if possible. Sometimes I'm out of town working and not able to fly for 3-4 weeks at a time. I have not gone long enough to require a CFI checkout (90 days) since 2015 when I first flew my -12. We ( the Wingwalker and I, my most efficient helper) can have the plane ready to preflight in 11-12 minutes from the time we get stopped at the assembly area. Basically about the same time as opening hangar, fueling the plane and preflight, closing hangar door. My biggest impediment is finding a copilot in the COVID age.

Nice. That's great to hear.... I'll bet a lot of folks in hangars don't get up that often.

and yeah, flying solo is where my mind is spinning about some sort of trailer side hoist...or maybe some sort of rolling dollies, to aid in wing installation and removal.....and I'm not at this point even seriously considering doing this trailer thing!
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:22 PM
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Thumbs up Custom RV-12 Trailer Available Now...

The RV-12 trailer of your dreams is available now and at a reasonable price...

This very lightly used custom rig is located in central Florida and is owned by Scott Malcomb. Scott, referenced by many around the country (and me) as "The RV-12 Guru", has been off the VAF grid for a while and his log-in credentials were purged. He should be approved with a new log-in in a day or two and will be posting details.

This is truly a 'barn find' for anyone in need of a trailer for their RV-12.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:30 PM
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This is truly a 'barn find' for anyone in need of a trailer for their RV-12.
Bring a trailer to pick up a trailer...
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Old 05-10-2023, 07:21 PM
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Looking for the perfect Vans RV-12 Trailer?

I have for sale 2019 custom ATC Quest 8.5x24 V-nose dual axle enclosed trailer. This trailer has been specifically built to hold the RV-12. It has a fully finished interior with 99 1/4" finished interior width. Has recessed LED lights, cabinets, carpet in the living space at the front and air conditioning. It has a ramp that guides the nose gear into the same spot every time coupled with a powered remote control winch that makes loading the RV-12 a breeze. Sidewall wing mounts with spar locking pins keep the wings secure during transport.

Insulated ceiling and walls

60amp converter intli-power 15amp GFI outlets and 12v battery w/cutoff
5200lb Torsion axles with EZ-lube hubs and radial tires

$22,000.00 Message me if you are interested for more details.
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Old 05-16-2023, 09:39 AM
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This is an unsolicited report on Scott Malcomb's RV-12 Trailer that I looked at in Geneva, Florida on Sunday, May 14, 2023. Scott does not know I am posting this. I was very anxious to check out his trailer, thinking someone else on VAF might get it first. I had several calls, emails and text exchanges with Scott prior to my trip to Geneva and I had funds transferred to my checking account (from my avionics and engine fund) to make the purchase. The trailer is in excellent shape, needs nothing and is ready to go for transporting and storing an RV-12. The price is well below what it would cost to have built today.

It was a tough decision for me not to buy it. I have a 20-year-old Silverado pickup that I put an aluminum camper shell (lightweight) on in January 2022 and then spent 6-months building-out the interior. With my camper complete, I resumed work on my RV-12 kit in Feb. 2023 with the goal of finishing it and traveling cross-country (very long trips in mountainous areas) with the airplane inside a trailer towed behind my truck-camping rig. Unfortunately, Scott's trailer is significantly heavier and a bit longer than what I hope to find. My truck is 4WD (heavy) and with the fully-packed camper and a big winch on the front my towing capacity is limited.

In my opinion, Scott's trailer is ideal for someone with the right tow vehicle looking for a portable hangar suitable for safe RV-12 storage, and only planning reasonably short trips to an airport and occasional long trips. Meanwhile, I will work on getting a more expensive, but hopefully lighter, trailer that will best suit my mission of multiple 8,000 mile driving trips seeing the USA in my Chevrolet and from up in the air.

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Old 05-20-2023, 06:24 AM
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Default Without wings storage

Howdy there;

Yep, I share a hanger with my RV-12iS and a piper cub. I have to take the wings off every time I fly! I am thinking about building a wheel to connect to
the hole in the spar to move it without another needed person.. Grin

I have a low 16 feet trailer that I use to move it too and from cities... Place the wings underneath and go! Grin
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