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Old 12-04-2020, 02:12 PM
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Default NTSB recommends AD for certain oil filter adapters

I know most RV's use Lycomings or Lycoming clones, but I got this in my email and thought, just in case someone has a Continental with one of these F&M/Stratus oil filter adapters, it's good to know... Torn or unevenly compressed gaskets caused blowouts and loss of oil leading to 11 accidents identified by the NTSB.

https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-rele...R20201203.aspx
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Old 12-04-2020, 04:27 PM
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Stratus site lists these for Continental 550 thru 300 & smaller engines.
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Old 12-04-2020, 04:43 PM
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that is probably the worst design I have ever seen
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:31 PM
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Thanks! I forwarded that over to the Mooneyspace forums since the M20K was called out specifically.
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Old 12-04-2020, 06:37 PM
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As a former 182/TCM O470 owner, I recall there was an AD quite a few years ago on the original TCM filter adaptor. (The jam nut could loosen, the adaptor would then rattle around and destroy the internal threads). It seems odd that a relatively simple part could cause so much trouble!
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:02 PM
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that is probably the worst design I have ever seen
There are many hundreds if not thousands of customers waiting on your better design, me included. Properly installed and torqued theyíre dry as a bone. If you torque it by the TFAR (that feels about right) method youíre going to have problems. You do have to be careful when removing and installing filters to prevent movement of the adapter relative to the accessory case. It that happens it WILL leak, and you WONíT stop it until you replace the gaskets/seals at both ends and properly retorque the assembly.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:20 PM
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KatieB thanks for posting this. I have been thinking about putting one of these on our C-182B towplane. To Steve Melton's comment, it is true that what they had to work with is a pretty marginal sealing surface area, just asking to be disturbed. But, as longranger points out, it is about all that could be done with what they have to work with. I think with proper awareness and care, it can be adequately serviceable.

Not to start a Continental vs. Lycoming battle, (or maybe yeah, game on!) but the more I work with the O-470, the more I appreciate Lycoming's somewhat less primitive approach to many details.

Have you seen any timing marks on a Continental O-470?
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I've installed a few of these over the years and they can be a pain to get them to not leak and to stay tight.
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Have you seen any timing marks on a Continental O-470?
Still looking... to this point with my limited Continental experience, Iíve had to rely on the old piston stop/spinner dunce hat method.
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Have you seen any timing marks on a Continental O-470?
Iíve not worked on an O-470, but my O-300 is of similar if not older vintage, and there are marks on the edge of the prop flange that you are somehow supposed to align with the case split several inches away. Fortunately I inherited my Dadís TimeRite...

Iím looking forward to what improvements a ďmodernĒ Lycoming whose basic design only dates back to the 1950s (as opposed to the 1930s and 40s) has to offer.
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