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Old 10-30-2020, 01:46 PM
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Hello All,

Has anyone installed the ZipTips Premiere Winglets and come up with a ER tank solution? I know Hotel Whiskey Aviation makes a tank for Vans stock wing tips but I'm guessing they won't work with the ZipTips?
Getting ready to start on quick build wings and trying to get some final decisions made
Thanks ahead for any advice!

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Old 10-30-2020, 02:32 PM
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I have the HW ER tanks installed and I canít imagine how a different wing tip profile would fit. They are tight in the Vans wingtip
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:30 PM
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Thanks Bill for replying! Yeah I was thinking that the HW er tanks would not work. Wondering if anyone came up with another solution for those who used the Aveo tips.
On a different note - how do you like the HW er tanks ? Have they worked well and have they been very beneficial?
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They work great. I flew for 8 yrs without them and decided I needed them for some of the long trips I was taking. Also they work great for tanking up on cheap fuel ( I know, oxymoron!)
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Old 10-30-2020, 05:44 PM
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I'm slowly designing a set that will fit my rocket and a friends rocket. He has the zip tips and I have the original style of winglets with no intention of upgrading. Any idea the difference between the 4 wings internally and the 10 wings? Specifically I am looking at a tube style tank like the HW tanks but then with an additional welded on tank inside the tip.

Be a couple months so depends on how patient you are. I am attempting to get 10 gallons per side as that fits our commute style fuel wise pretty nicely. Give us a solid 600 mile range plus deviation to alternate 100 miles away plus the 45 minutes.
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The HW tanks have a welded tank portion that fills the wing tip
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That's on the -10. The ones on the other models are considerably smaller and are just in the leading edge.
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Hey Berkley, make sure the forward outboard edge of the tank and the inside of the wing tip where the lights are have clearance. Bet not. Check it BEFORE you install the tanks in the wings-
pic is of the new version tank with a 45* cutoff on the leading edge to clear lights. wing is upside down in this pic.

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Thanks Bill for replying! Yeah I was thinking that the HW er tanks would not work. Wondering if anyone came up with another solution for those who used the Aveo tips.
On a different note - how do you like the HW er tanks ? Have they worked well and have they been very beneficial?
I have been considering options for extra fuel, knowing that the HW tanks will not fit with my ZipTips.

1. TurtlePac collapsible fuel tank(s) for rear seats and/or baggage compartment with dry-break disconnects in fuel lines with isolation valves. Big advantage here is you can do large volumes, especially if you can give up a rear seat. A friend of mine who does long hauls (up to 16 hours!) in his C182 uses a Turtle Pac in the back seat.

2. Conformal baggage compartment floor tank with dry-break QD--Advantage is is would fit flush to the baggage floor and support a small load of bags. Disadvantage is lower volume due to baggage floor limitations and installation/removal diffculty.

3. Custom fuel bladders fitted into leading edges -- need to look at structure, plumbing might get complex.

Fuel Safe Systems advertises custom fuel bladders and cell designs. I haven't contacted them yet but am considering doing so for the option of a baggage floor fuel cell and/or leading edge cells. https://fuelsafe.com/aircraft-fuel-bladders/ Fuel Safe also sells the dry break fuel disconnect fittings.
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