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Old 05-24-2021, 10:57 AM
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Default Pneumatic Squeezer

I just wanted to ask a general question regarding a pneumatic squeezer. I currently have the Cleaveland Main Squeeze hand squeezer, but I still have trouble getting a nice chop head with -4 rivets. It is challenging to hold the squeezer square with the rivet while applying force manually. Do people with pneumatic squeezers find that they get a better result than a hand squeezer and is it less prone to error and poorly set rivets? I guess what I am asking is it worth $700 bucks?

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Old 05-24-2021, 11:11 AM
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To me? YES! I consistently got better quality rivets, whether they be #3 or #4, domed or flush. My pneumatic squeezer was my top-preferred tool and method for riveting.

Isham sells their squeezer for $599, with excellent service after the sale.
https://planetools.com/products/pneu...rivet-squeezer

I never once used a hand squeezer on KELLI GIRL.
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Old 05-24-2021, 11:17 AM
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I had the Main Squeeze and quickly abandoned it in favor of the pneumatic squeezer. Waste of money IMHO, however some builders really like them.
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I used an pneumatic alligator squeezer for the first time this past weekend and was amazed at how easy it was to use. If I were going to build an entire airplane I would definitely have to add one to my collection of tools.
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Old 05-24-2021, 12:51 PM
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I'm new to the game and just working on the practice kit. Of course I'm trying every riveting/dimpling method just to learn, but it took me 1 rivet with the Cleaveland pneumatic squeezer to decide it's worth the money. Set it right, and there just isn't any skill required to get a good rivet. My bucking technique...well, that is a different story.
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Old 05-24-2021, 12:54 PM
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I use my pneumatic squeezer for almost all #4 rivets. I have a Main Squeeze and personally I don't like it. The pneumatic squeezer does have a learning curve since it is not as controllable as a manual hand squeezer. I use my Tatco squeezer for most #3 rivets if there are just a few to do. For larger groups I use the pneumatic squeezer.

Also, I use the longeron yoke as the default yoke. If it doesn't fit or I need a longer reach I swap the yoke.
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Old 05-24-2021, 02:30 PM
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Remember, you aren't really "buying" the tool, but renting it. You will be able to sell it when you are finished and the delta to what you paid for it is the cost of the rental. Granted, your cash outlay is 100% right away and you won't get your money until you sell (if you ever do). I have a pneumatic and it's indispensable to me.
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:10 PM
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I bought the Isham kit that doesn't even include a manual squeezer. So far (80% through the empennage) I haven't yet found a single rivet I wish I'd had a hand squeezer for. If you can get a yoke around it, you can get the air squeezer on it, and if not you gotta shoot it with the rattle gun anyway. Like all tools it has a learning curve, you can certainly make bad rivets with it (and a long list of other mistakes, seriously, keep your fingers out of there), but I think it's a fine tool and worth the price. You'll always be able to resell it for most of its value later - just read the instructions and do not oil it.
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:24 PM
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I bought the Isham kit that doesn't even include a manual squeezer. So far (80% through the empennage)...[/i].
+1. I did all of a -10 QB without a manual squeezer. Take some time to practice feathering the trigger (I too had the Isham one). You should be able to put the rivet under light compression, make certain everything is straight, then compress the rivet. This is especially valuable when access forces you to use the tool ‘backwards’ (moveable ram on the manufactured head).
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Old 05-24-2021, 03:32 PM
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I eyeteeth the switch down put on a footpedal from day one and never used a hand squeezer once. Go ahead and purchase the squeezer and you won’t be disappointed.
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