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05-31-2019, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
Posts: 5,838
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Another Paint Shop Observation.... (safety related)
During an annual condition insp. I did recently on an RV7 that came out of a paint shop about a year ago. It quickly became obvious that the "assembler" didn't read any of my articles on VAF (can you imagine that!).
All the elevator bolts were loose, including the Torque Tube 'Jesus' bolt.
The center bearing had no shims and the bolt was loose (I later found the shims the builder made laying in the bottom of the tailcone).
All the rudder bolts were loose and the wrong length bolts installed (the bottom one is longer than the others).
The paint looked great, but the guy putting the controls back on lacked some basic skills.
Bottom line, most builders know what to look for, if you're not the builder and you have your RV painted have someone inspect the work the paint shop did just to be sure they did it correctly.
Other things to watch for that I have seen:
Blocked Fuel vents, fuel contamination
Blocked pitot/static ports
Trim system, not hooked up or wired incorrectly
Canopy bolts missing/loose
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Walt Aronow, DFW, TX (52F)
EXP Aircraft Services LLC
Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
FAA Certified Repair Station, AP/IA/FCC GROL, EAA Technical Counselor
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RV7A built 2004, 1700+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags
Website: ExpAircraft.com, Email: walt@expaircraft.com, Cell: 972-746-5154
Last edited by Walt : 05-31-2019 at 08:29 AM.
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05-31-2019, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt
During an annual condition insp. I did recently on an RV7 that came out of a paint shop about a year ago. It quickly became obvious that the "assembler" didn't read any of my articles on VAF (can you imagine that!).
All the elevator bolts were loose, including the Torque Tube 'Jesus' bolt.
The center bearing had no shims and the bolt was loose (I later found the shims the builder made laying in the bottom of the tailcone).
All the rudder bolts were loose and the wrong length bolts installed (the bottom one is longer than the others).
The paint looked great, but the guy putting the controls back on lacked some basic skills.
Bottom line, most builders know what to look for, if you're not the builder and you have your RV painted have someone inspect the work the paint shop did just to be sure they did it correctly.
Other things to watch for:
Blocked Fuel vents, fuel contamination
Trim system, not hooked up or wired incorrectly
Canopy bolts missing/loose
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I had a similar experience with my paint shop - the paint looked great but I ended up removing and completely reinstalling the elevators and rudder to get them right again.
If I ever do it again, I'll make sure I work a deal with the paint shop where I am the one doing the R/R of the control surfaces.
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
Garden City, TX VAF 2021 dues paid 
N16GN flying 750 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, IFD440
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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05-31-2019, 12:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: WARNER ROBINS, GA
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Do it yourself !!!
Had mine painted at ArtCraft in Santa Maria CA. Yes I flew it from GA just to have it painted. 3 of us RV builders spent an hour and a half removing all control surfaces. After paint done, excellent job by the way, 2 of us spent 6 hours reattaching all surfaces as they were supposed to be correctly. We had taken pictures of the bolt assemblies to ensure each went back as originally assembled. No issues and totally happy.
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RV 7A RV #9700 May 2017
N325KS the Flying “K”
Built in SoCal KCCB, now in GA @ KPXE
600+ Hours & 7X cross the USA
OSH flyin 2018 & 2019 & Petit Jean 2019
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05-31-2019, 03:20 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Windsor, California
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And if the paint shop stripped/pressure-washed your landing gear be sure to repack your wheel bearings before moving the aircraft. Had this problem with two aircraft at two different paint shops over the years.
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EAA #23982 (circa 1965) - EAA Technical Counselor and Flight Advisor; CFI - A&I
RV-12 E-LSA #120496 (SV w/ AP and ADS-B 2020) - N124DH flying since March 2014 - 1,000+ hours (as of Feb 2021)! 
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05-31-2019, 05:04 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lockport, NY
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Lancaster Aero at Smoketown PA did mine and when I picked her up it was perfect. I had taken pictures of all the hinge points of all the surfaces beforehand so I could quickly make comparisons. You definitely want to check even from reputable shops as anyone can miss something with work as extensive as a paint job.
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RV-9A, Flying
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05-31-2019, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ponte Vedra, FL
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Timely post for me as I will be getting a paint job soon. I'm planning to leave all rod ends (elevator and rudder/VS) and jam nuts in place and having the shop mask off the bearings - is that the right way to go?
I intend to remove and re-install everything myself.
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Turner Billingsley
RV-14A built/sold N14VB
RV-12iS in progress as of October 2020
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06-01-2019, 08:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Spring Hill, Florida; Flushing, Michigan
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Thread subject is the reason why I negotiated to do the dis/re assembly. I had heard too many horror stories of badly reassembled aircraft.
Dolly and I required one long day to disassemble and three shorter days to put the plane back together. We put screws back to keep paint out of nutplates. On reassembly we used mostly new hardware. I, as others, took photos of hinge joints before taking them apart. This was particularly helpful in putting the ailerons back on. The fosters crew was careful to mask all exposed bearings.
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