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Old 03-06-2021, 04:15 PM
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Default Subpanel Layout Opinions Sought

So, before I try to figure out where all the wires go, I would really appreciate your opinions regarding where I have put all the various boxes. The locations are based somewhat on where connections go and somewhat on where they would fit and somewhat on considerations of revisions/maintenance access later.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Please overlook the crude models, but they are 1:1 within 1/4" or so.

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Old 03-06-2021, 04:19 PM
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Views of aft sub panel, fwd sub panel, starboard view, and from firewall to aft.
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Old 03-06-2021, 06:31 PM
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You need to be aware that the "canopy frame close out" hangs under the canopy and abuts the upper forward edge of the subpanel. Because of this you need about 1 inch of clearance from the top edge and outer edges of the subpanel for any mounted equipment. Check section 38 in the plans (canopy construction). It looks like several pieces of equipment with this layout will have to be moved. I had to move my remote radio and audio panel due to interference with the canopy frame closeout.

Hope this picture helps to visualize it. It is looking at my subpanel from the right side to the left. The canopy is raised and you can see the canopy frame close out hanging under the canopy.
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Old 03-06-2021, 08:35 PM
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The biggest thing is to make sure you have enough room for the d-subs connectors. At times is seems like the d-subs take up more space than the instrument. But it looks like you already know that.

Are you sure you need 2 hubs? The HDX, A/P controller and radio panel have 2 SV-Net connections.
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Old 03-08-2021, 06:52 AM
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Views of aft sub panel, fwd sub panel, starboard view, and from firewall to aft.
Leave more room on the right side of the EMS (Looking from pic#1) so you have the room for the CHT, EGT, and other sensor connector. These two connector have the most wire in your avionic layout.

The remote transponder and radio units should be move up to make room for the spring loaded mounting bracket.
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Leave more room on the right side of the EMS (Looking from pic#1) so you have the room for the CHT, EGT, and other sensor connector. These two connector have the most wire in your avionic layout.
To expand on this, Make sure you know how you are going to route the Sensor wires and CHT/EGT wires to the EMS. It is one of the larger wire bundles and tight turns are difficult.
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Consider leaving a blank space in the center section to add a IFR GPS navigator down the road.

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You need to be aware that the "canopy frame close out" hangs under the canopy and abuts the upper forward edge of the subpanel. Because of this you need about 1 inch of clearance from the top edge and outer edges of the subpanel for any mounted equipment. Check section 38 in the plans (canopy construction). It looks like several pieces of equipment with this layout will have to be moved. I had to move my remote radio and audio panel due to interference with the canopy frame closeout.

Hope this picture helps to visualize it. It is looking at my subpanel from the right side to the left. The canopy is raised and you can see the canopy frame close out hanging under the canopy.
Thanks Brian. The photo helped a lot. I also went over to a buddy's hangar and looked at his -14. Then, I moved everything down and rearranged a few things.
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Old 03-10-2021, 09:28 AM
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The biggest thing is to make sure you have enough room for the d-subs connectors. At times is seems like the d-subs take up more space than the instrument. But it looks like you already know that.

Are you sure you need 2 hubs? The HDX, A/P controller and radio panel have 2 SV-Net connections.
I modeled the dSubs and attached them. You are correct. They take up a lot of room. had to rearrange some stuff based on this. Thanks.
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To expand on this, Make sure you know how you are going to route the Sensor wires and CHT/EGT wires to the EMS. It is one of the larger wire bundles and tight turns are difficult.
Based on your and the previous response, I will make a tray to hold the EMS 'in the air' in line with the glove box hole so the wires have a straight shot to the firewall.
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