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Old 12-23-2020, 07:23 AM
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Basic breakdown of the 170+ knot cross country new kid on the block ...

Engine $48
Avionics $45
Paint $20
Kit $50
Interior $7
Prop $8

... and add some short supply and high demand ... boom! $225

Having headroom plus being able to stretch out and fly for hours NOT squished up to the sweaty guy next to you ... PRICELESS
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Old 12-23-2020, 07:46 AM
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If you do the quickbuild kit you easily get to $200k. Also everything is listed with the pre-tax price but don't forget the builders need to pay sales tax and use tax.

QB Kit $50k
Engine $45k
EFII $10k
Prop $15k
Avionics $40k
Brakes/Wheels $10k
Paint $20k

That's $190k.
I built a -14 for way under $190. Without too many details instead of engine 45 and prop 15 I bought the engine/prop through Vans for about 40 total. I have SDSEFI instead of EFII for closer to 5000 than 10,000 (I suspect EFII is priced competitively). I really paid closer to 2500 for SDS because I sold off the fuel and ignition from my new IO-390. Brakes and wheels are included in the kit price. So my guess would be between 120,000 and 150,000 build for most builders. I only know the build cost of my particular choices.

Additionally, I doubt they are actually selling for $230. I do believe they are asking $230. I would love to think that was an actual selling price.
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Old 12-23-2020, 07:54 AM
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Additionally, I doubt they are actually selling for $230. I do believe they are asking $230. I would love to think that was an actual selling price.
I know of 3 that were sold north of $220 ... two of them were sold within 1 day of posting the other took about a week ...

Once more are out there it will stabilize ... seller's market on 14's right now
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:13 AM
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I know of 3 that were sold north of $220 ... two of them were sold within 1 day of posting the other took about a week ...

Once more are out there it will stabilize ... seller's market on 14's right now
Actual selling prices are always hard to know. Although mine is not for sell it is always good to think it is worth that much. In my case that would be a surprising profit. Thanks for the feedback
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:15 AM
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Actual selling prices are always hard to know. Although mine is not for sell it is always good to think it is worth that much. In my case that would be a surprising profit. Thanks for the feedback
When new 172's are over $500k it's easy to see the appeal for non-builders ...
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:29 AM
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If you do the quickbuild kit you easily get to $200k. Also everything is listed with the pre-tax price but don't forget the builders need to pay sales tax and use tax.

QB Kit $50k
Engine $45k
EFII $10k
Prop $15k
Avionics $40k
Brakes/Wheels $10k
Paint $20k

That's $190k.
Shipping and do-dads $10K , now it is $200. Where is the leather interior? And several of these are on the low side by a few thousand. All new stuff in a 7 will push $150k.

A really nice used, refurbished Cirus is $400? But the annual $ hahahahaha
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I agree with the all the 'what for' comments. Something not mentioned about the 14, it is stressed for aerobatics - even if you don't do aerobatics that is a statement on the plane's heftier structural integrity.

You find out why the plane costs what it does after you invest in all the things you want do put into it, the quick build additional cost path, the tools to make it happen, the multitude of visits to online and big box stores to get what is needed, the time and effort it takes to be resourceful in coming up with ways to save a little here and there, degree of all the panel goodies you can go with or not, . . . ad infinitum

If you keep a pretty good track of all of the money spent and factor in something for all of the nickels and dimes that slip through and add it up -
the cost tallies reported are all in the ballpark.
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:44 AM
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If you do the quickbuild kit you easily get to $200k. Also everything is listed with the pre-tax price but don't forget the builders need to pay sales tax and use tax.

QB Kit $50k
Engine $45k
EFII $10k
Prop $15k
Avionics $40k
Brakes/Wheels $10k
Paint $20k

That's $190k.

Do the kits not come with brakes and wheels!?
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:48 AM
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Do the kits not come with brakes and wheels!?
They do, and the engine comes with an ignition and fuel delivery system, so you don't need EFII. And you can pick nits with a few of the other numbers too. But, the total is directionally reasonable. Maybe you pull it off for $150K by bargain shopping and finding a less expensive paint shop. But it's still gonna be a spendy undertaking.

Don't forget the cost of an interior. $500 - infinity. ;-)
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Old 12-23-2020, 08:50 AM
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...fly for hours NOT squished up to the sweaty guy next to you ... PRICELESS
The cabin width difference is 3 inches. And Bill's usual passenger is neither large nor particularly sweaty, and even if she was, no one would mind, and...

Oops. I better shut up now
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