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  #561  
Old 08-04-2020, 12:44 PM
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Like others, I also fear they'll just double down on the upper end of the market.
With Epic leaving the kit market, maybe there's room for a new experimental turboprop? Could never afford one, but I'd love to dream about it.

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Old 08-04-2020, 01:15 PM
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I want electric! Something 2 seater, 150kts, 3 hour endurance, 30 min recharge time.
I bet Vans will let others try and fail in this space for a few years. Some incredible things could happen if Mr. Musk's batteries eventually flew in a Vans airframe. Give it a decade or so.
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Old 08-04-2020, 01:32 PM
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I saw an article about a 150KW electric motor made by Yamaha...that's around 200hp...just sayin'...
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:53 PM
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I saw an article about a 150KW electric motor made by Yamaha...that's around 200hp...just sayin'...
The trouble with electrics is the takeoff weight is the same as the landing weight. Let that sink in a little bit and you will discover what it really means.
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:13 PM
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The trouble with electrics is the takeoff weight is the same as the landing weight. Let that sink in a little bit and you will discover what it really means.
True, but at least you do not have the C/G going out the aft end of the envelope
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:54 PM
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After seeing Paul Dye’s beautiful jet, it seems a 2 place jet will be really impractical. The range will seem to be the limiting characteristic. I cant see a 2 place net have greater than 250 mile range.
250 mile range for a 2 place jet? Seems low to me. This one has two seats and a 3,450 mile range.
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:02 PM
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250 mile range for a 2 place jet? Seems low to me. This one has two seats and a 3,450 mile range.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:02 PM
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Better hurry. Rans is putting an IO340 on their S19.
They are? With all the effort they're putting into the S21 it seems like they've all but forgotten about the S19.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:07 PM
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They are? With all the effort they're putting into the S21 it seems like they've all but forgotten about the S19.
They'd have to up the VNE too to make that a viable solution. The S19 is a great platform, but anything that big on it would be economy cruise at VNE. I'd consider an S19 with an O-320-IO-340. I looked online and couldn't find anything on this. Any links available?
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Old 08-07-2020, 08:59 AM
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They'd have to up the VNE too to make that a viable solution. The S19 is a great platform, but anything that big on it would be economy cruise at VNE. I'd consider an S19 with an O-320-IO-340. I looked online and couldn't find anything on this. Any links available?
Fuel capacity will be an issue as well. Strapping a 150-180 hp motor on a platform that only holds 24 gallons doesn't seem like the best idea. And increasing fuel capacity would take some pretty significant redesign of the wing and/or fuel system.
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