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Old 06-01-2018, 09:49 AM
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Talking ✈ RV-14a _ Roman & Dima _ - Israel ✈

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Introduction:
Hello to all of you - mighty airplane builders,
Today we are happy to add our progress thread
to the community forum.

So who are we?

We are two best friends since 8th grade which
makes it 25 years already (...daaa***mn we
are old!!!) and we decided to make this awesome
dream to come true.

Roman - I am a retired soft developer
and studying pilot, for that moment I have only 13
hours of Cessna 152. I hope to have my license
before the construction is done. I am huge fan of
Vans and avionics enthusiast.

Dima - A guy who is super excited
about constructing things. A GE ex-engineer (yes,
we have a local branch). Dima decided to put his
day job on hold for some months and dedicate
next months exclusively to the project.


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18 months is the timeframe we are planning to have
the plane flying. Some will say it is optimistics for
first time builders. But we are super determined to
prove it's doable.

I think it is the first project to give a full progress
report from Israel (maybe not the only builder here,
but the only one to report here) and even though
we feel very distant from the community we are
virtually very attached. We are reading dozens of
blogs and studying from all of you so much so
sometimes it feels like we know all and each of you
personally.

The big dream for us is one day to take off from
Israel on our self-constructed RV14a to cross the
ocean and land on one of the events you guys are
organizing in U.S. Yes it is possible, the navigation
path was already planned, and what left is just to
build the plane.

Guys, please give us some spiritual support. I hope
to shake hands with all of you very soon!

P.S: Will post our first actual status update in a day or two.

Cheers.
Roman & Dima

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Old 10-08-2018, 11:04 AM
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Status Report: #2

Our second report is about:

  • Workspace Preparation
  • Training project
  • Vessel location report

The plane is yet in the ocean and will hit the shore of
Israel in about 1-2 weeks from now. But we are not
wasting our time. Since our last report we managed to
prepare the environment for the project, and first and
most important is the workspace:


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  • Workspace Preparation

We spent last 2 months searching for a pretty spacious
hangar, and rented it. The price was reasonable but the
place was absolute in ruins so it took us some time to
clean it up and paint the walls to feel comfortable there.




Now the tables: as we watched dozens of videos of
other builders, we had pretty good understanding of
what kind of tables we should have. The only problem
was that a professional table of that size is not a budget
product. That is why we decided to construct the tables
ourself from steel profiles.

We designed it exactly the size we think will be optimal
for most of the tasks: 3m x 1.2m x 0.9m, and what a
beautiful result 4 wheels with optional high changer
and voila we have 2 self made tables, for almost no
money. All the training we done later kind of proves it was
the right decision.




Next, we had to organize all the tools in the right way so
they will be placed right in front of us all the time. Cause
you never know which exact drill bit you are going to use.

Here are some results:



Shelfs, shelfs and more shelfs, I think once we have
all the boxes opened it will help us with organization
of the aluminium parts.




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  • Training project

The first rivet was not an easy thing, and ‘How the **** we
suppose to do 10,000 of those?, I was thinking to myself.
That is exactly why Vans training project is what
helps to get the right experience and confidence that
you can master those skills relatively quickly.



The train project is great, after getting pretty decent result
I think we got handful of new skills that will be about
70% - 80% of our job in the upcoming months. Cause
really... what is most of the work, if not: understanding
the drawings, deburing, dimpling and rivetting the parts.
All those in various sizes and levels of access difficultly.



Check that result: after all - we didn't know nothing just 2
months ago and now it looks like a real wing. Small but
truly aerodynamically shaped.


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  • Vessel location report





Luanda is the name of the ship. In current days it is
sailing somewhere in the Atlantic, approaching the
Gibraltar, heading to the Valencia port. That is already
our neighborhood - the Mediterranean. In 1-2 weeks
from now it should hit Israeli shore and then 4-5
days until we will open the boxes in our fresh office.


Summary: we are supermotivated, we have all the tools
and we feel super ready for the mission. God speed
for the captain of Luanda and hopefully our next report
will be about touching the real thing. Please keep sending
your wishes and your experienced advises, we really
enjoy chatting with each of you!




Cheers.
Roman & Dima

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Old 10-08-2018, 10:58 PM
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Hi Roman and Dima.
Would you please contact me at:
0507815801
Thanks
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:41 AM
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So the cozy pilot/builder is called Yair Gil. He is building another cozy and might be a good source of information. He also lives just north of tel aviv in herzliya if i remember correctly.
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:47 AM
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So the cozy pilot/builder is called Yair Gil. He is building another cozy and might be a good source of information. He also lives just north of tel aviv in herzliya if i remember correctly.
Got you.

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Old 10-09-2018, 06:50 AM
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Hi Roman and Dima,

I work for Elbit Systems America (ESA) and travel to Karmiel and Haifa sometimes.

If you know anyone at Elbit who travels to the US it could be useful to pick up small parts you may need. The folks that come to meeting with us are always shopping while in the US to take thing back.

TJ
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Old 06-01-2018, 12:30 PM
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I think there was a Cozy built in Israel that flew via mainland-Europe, Island, Greenland, Canada ..... all the way to Oshkosh many years ago.

Have fun building!
Yep, that is the plan, I measured the
distances and really that should be doable.
Probably we will add extra tank for part of
the baggage space. It will extend the range
up to 1800 km (~1120 miles).

Thanks for the help.
- Roman.
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Old 06-01-2018, 12:44 PM
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Roman and Dima: Welcome to the RV-14A world. Will you be doing a blog or online build log? If so be sure to share link with other VAF'ers so we can follow your work - it's a great way for all of us to learn and get better.

18months is very optimistic but do-able: the biggest challenge I think you'll find is getting parts in time to keep things moving when you make mistakes and have to re-order (trust me it will happen). If I had long shipping times I'd order extras of some items like standard AN bolts/nuts/washers, rivets of all common sizes, etc. You may also want to alter your production planning to consider how to keep things moving when you have waits related to replacement parts shipping. As an example - if a section is delayed waiting for a replacement part you can look ahead into the next section and start prepping/deburring/dimpling/priming parts for upcoming sections. (if you're priming - probably not truly necessary in your part of the world unless you're right on the ocean - of course Van's advises priming certain parts)
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Old 06-01-2018, 03:04 PM
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Nice to have you here guys. Welcome! Good plan you have with realistic build time frame. Please keep us informed about the project.

PS: A twin piper navajo will be launching eastbound from your woods to the same destination you are planning. In 5 weeks or so. Via Russia with an Israeli RV owner on board, they will be returning via Iceland. A good source of info.
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Old 06-02-2018, 03:58 AM
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Nice to have you here guys. Welcome! Good plan you have with realistic build time frame. Please keep us informed about the project.

PS: A twin piper navajo will be launching eastbound from your woods to the same destination you are planning. In 5 weeks or so. Via Russia with an Israeli RV owner on board, they will be returning via Iceland. A good source of info.


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Zdarova Vlad, I think two engines will be much safer. Anyway I am planning small leaps for the first time: maybe 500-800 km (300-500 miles).

By the way I am happy for any introduction to guys
in Israel that are in that game. We can be much
better connected.

I am on roman.mandeleil /on/ gmail

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