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Old 01-14-2021, 01:20 PM
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Hi All,

New RV-14A builder here in Canada.

General question about the pre-cover inspection:

How far do you take each piece before inspection? I haven't started building yet, waiting for the tail kit to arrive and trying to research as much as possible. I can't figure out how to know when to stop building each piece.

Ailerons for example, Do you just leave the skins off one side? or does the inspector peer through some holes somewhere?

Maybe the instructions describe when to stop?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Old 01-14-2021, 01:39 PM
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Hi Ray

First, are you an EAA member? I'm local EAA 245 president here in Ottawa and we have a LOT of RV guys (I used to be one until I sold my -8 to a couple of other chapter members). Also, the MD-RA inspectors are both members of our chapter.

The short answer to your question is that the inspectors need to see every nut, bolt, and rivet. Some inspectors might get a little snotty about having to use mirrors and flashlights to see into deep corners, but for the most part if they can see everything, you're good. You will NOT find anything in the instructions about build inspections. That is pretty much a Canada thing.

When you are building a part (like an elevator, for example) just make sure before you final rivet a skin or cover or something that you can still see the nuts, bolts, and rivets (generally we mean shop heads).

The reason they need to see everything? They are looking for badly formed/missing rivets, wrong nuts or bolts, missing washers or cotter pins, etc. They are also looking for workmanship issues like sharp cuts, unfinished edges, etc that could turn into failed parts in flight.

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Old 01-14-2021, 02:21 PM
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Thanks Mark,

Yup, It's Ray from the Chapter

I'm going to be building this thing in NS. I suppose there will be a new group of inspectors out that way.

For the pre-cover inspection. If you get it all done in one shot, leading up to that inspection, all your parts will be 'partially complete'. As in you'll build the whole kit except for some various skins across the whole plane will just be clecoed in place. Then after the inspection you button it all up?
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Doh! I guess I didn't recognize you without your last name :-)

Yes, you pretty much have it. When I built my -8, I got the tail and wings to the pre-cover inspection stage. The inspector at the time said the fuselage didn't need a pre-cover inspection because he could see everything he needed to see at the final inspection. Whether this is true of the -14 or not I don't know. I would ask your inspector.

So, this means I was able to get away with just two inspections which saved a couple $$.

Hope this helps...
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Right on. That answers it. I will try to make contact with the inspector early in the process and see if they have any opinions about the 14.

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Hi Ray, where abouts in Nova Scotia
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Hi Ron, I'm setting up in Port Morien. Are you in the neighbourhood?
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I Just noticed you're in Yarmouth. Opposite end
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Youíre going to be close to the airport. I have a niece up there that I visit once COVID takes a hike. Hopefully we can visit. There is an RV 14A being built in PEI also. I have a friend building a 14 also. Tail ready for pre cover and a week old mix up on shipping the fuselage and wings. Hopefully he can correct that ( his side not Vanís) and get them picked up tomorrow.
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Youíre going to be close to the airport. I have a niece up there that I visit once COVID takes a hike. Hopefully we can visit. There is an RV 14A being built in PEI also. I have a friend building a 14 also. Tail ready for pre cover and a week old mix up on shipping the fuselage and wings. Hopefully he can correct that ( his side not Vanís) and get them picked up tomorrow.
That's really great. I would love to get in touch with other folks in the maritimes with RV build experience. This is my first build and I already have load of questions. I get the feeling that will only increase as time goes by. Would be great to compare notes.
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