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Old 01-27-2021, 01:18 PM
tdavis1198 tdavis1198 is offline
 
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Default Cleaveland Static Port Installation

Some builders use Tank Sealant to mount the static ports and Cleaveland suggests you use RTV Silicon. Any reasons why to use one and not the other?
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:27 PM
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one consideration for silicone is that if you have a woopsie and get it where you don't want, you'll have a heck of a time cleaning that area well enough to get paint to stick to it.
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:33 PM
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Funny this should come up the day after I "tested" the bonding strength of proseal on the ports.

Proseal was awesome to use on the trailing edges of the rudder and the elevators.

However, I tried installing the Cleveland static ports two days ago. I thoroughly scuffed the aluminum on the skins and on the flange of the ports. Then cleaned with acetone. I then applied a coating of proseal to both surfaces and installed with pressure holding everything in place.

After 24 hours I put some lateral force on the ports and was surprised at how easily they came loose.

I am thinking that I will use another adhesive...maybe RTV silicone or an epoxy.

Open to suggestions.

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Old 01-27-2021, 01:56 PM
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They both stick really good and I have not had any issues with RTV that has been used for 10+ years. If you have proseal handy, by all means and if you don't RTV works great.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:06 PM
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some folks have used JB Weld to attach the Cleaveland static ports, and so did I.

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Old 01-27-2021, 02:25 PM
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If you use ProSeal, it will take longer to fully cure than RTV. Works great, but it does need to fully cure. Upside is that itís paintable and wonít contaminate a surface like RTV will.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:15 PM
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If you use ProSeal, it will take longer to fully cure than RTV. Works great, but it does need to fully cure. Upside is that itís paintable and wonít contaminate a surface like RTV will.
Anybody is planting on painting the inside portion of this area? But if you are, then be careful using RTV.
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Old 01-27-2021, 05:48 PM
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I'm using the Dynon static ports which I flush riveted in place. Don't know how the Cleavland ports are designed, but the Dynon ports have a fairly large flange.
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:23 PM
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When people mention the RTV adhesive is that the black RTV adhesive silicone. If so, I have some and will likely try it tonight.

Report on its success pending!
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:35 PM
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Default Safe Air hybrid

I used the Vans rivet outside and SafeAir inside. Proseal and rivets in the flange through the side skin. They won't be moving.
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