Based on my recent experience you will be fine. My log was even more basic than yours, notebook paper with a single line entry for each day I worked on it, a short description, “worked on wings” and the hours worked. When it came time to submit to the FAA, I scanned it and added 4-5 pages of pictures showing me and my wife working on various parts. They accepted it with no questions.My build log is very minimalistic. I have a note book where I write the date, time started and the pages and steps I completed, then the stop time. I wonder if I need to be more detailed.
One simple approach is to log the date and time completed next to each step in the Vans builder instructions.
And you know where you are, and don't skip steps.
One simple approach is to log the date and time completed next to each step in the Vans builder instructions.
And you know where you are, and don't skip steps.
One thing to remember is that there are two potential “official” uses for the builder log - one is for the DAR granting the airworthiness certificate for the airplane. The other is for the FSDO to issue a repairman’s certificate for the builder. For the second use, it is really useful to have a wad of pictures showing the applicant actually working on the airplane in question!
It’s not all that hard to pencil-whip notes into a manual regarding dates that work was completed. It’s a lot harder to fake pictures of people and specific airplane parts. In the age of phone cameras, its cheap insurance to grab shots along the way.
Just makes sure the dates on the pictures match the dates in your log…..
Paul
One additional thing to consider. With the current system you have to upload a pdf copy of your builder’s log when applying for your airworthiness certificate. It would take a long time at my printer/scanner to scan the instruction binder.
Anyone have background? Various sources describe a build log upload differently, some as a requirement and others as optional. Is this another "depends on the prevalent opinion at the local FAA office" thing, or is there a clear reference? Chapter 15 of 8130.2J doesn't seem to address an upload requirement, only the long-standing "Review the builder's documentation to verify it shows:", previously a responsibility left to the DAR.
There is no FAA guidance that requires uploading the build records. The build records are not required to be in the aircraft's permanent record at the FAA registration office in OKC. If you are being required to upload the document, this requirement is coming from the local FAA office. My guess is, so that the inspector or DAR can review it in advance.
Anything you upload into the AWC system WILL become part of the aircraft's permanent record in OKC. It's all automatic. I would suggest you ask the inspector to point out in the official guidance where it asks that the build records be uploaded. I don't see where either the FAA or you would want the build records to be a part of the permanent record. Your mileage may vary, but this is something I would definitely query the inspector about.
Thanks Joe - this makes me feel better, as my “build log” with the Sonex machines has been nothing more than dating and highlighting steps on the drawings...
Sounds like each DAR and FSDO office is a little different. During my application for the inspection certificate the office was in lockdown and we did it all online and over the phone. By the time we had the online application process working the FSDO and I were good friends! He didn't require an uploaded log since he was happy that the DAR (who previously worked in his office) was able to vouch for his impression that I built and was able to do the work on my plane...
So lesson learned: each FSDO will be different, contact them early (like day one) and ask about what they will want to see. Make contact with your DAR as well, they can be a wealth of information during the process (my DAR was a life long Boeing inspector and an easy going guy, enjoyable experience all around).
The FAA is your friend (well, when they're not after your ticket!) and most are flyers just like you and me. The process really isn't that difficult.
Cheers