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Old 10-27-2022, 09:44 AM
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Old 10-27-2022, 10:17 AM
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your, you're ; dear, deer; bear,bare; whole,hole; there's a bunch of them, just add flare and flair to you're list !!!! But we all knew what the subject was about.
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Old 10-27-2022, 10:52 AM
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D'oh! I didn't even THINK of "flair" vs. "flare" but I managed to use both in the original post. Guess I'm so freaked out by flaring that my proofreading has flared out.
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Old 10-27-2022, 09:57 PM
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I was out bush one day fixing a cool room, the copper flare 1/2 in cracked and my flaring tool nowhere to be found😢. I cut the tube fitted the nut and heated the end with Map torch,rounding out a reasonable flare with a 10 inch star screwdriver. Whilst still hot tightened the nut, never leaked ever since! Aluminium tubing is soft, if you donít flare too wide and cause the pipe to crack the nut will close up any slight angle difference👍
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Old 10-28-2022, 07:07 AM
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All it takes is practice, with what ever flare tool you use. RFT37, RoloFlair, etc. All are slightly different. Advice----cut some sections of straight tube, square the ends with a file and through some trial and error, figure out how much the extend the tube past the flare bar to get the right amount of flare, once the sleeve is installed.
For most of you, you'll be using 3003O-.375-.035 tubeing for fuel. So I'd start with extending the tube about .060 from the flare bar. Flare it per the tool instructions, then slide the sleeve up and see how it all matches. Shouls be about 1/2 the width of the sleeve. If you get it small, just reflare it slightly larger. If its too big, sometimes you can reduce the OD with a belt sander. The trick is once you fine the sweet spot, make a measuring tool to use with the bar to get the tube to the right height prior to flaring. Something like a rivet height gauge is the idea.

Now if you flare a different OD/ID tube of different material ( Like 304 stainless, .375OD/.065 wall) obviously more testing and practice will be needed.
Its part of the 'education and recreation' section of the build process. The 'education' turns into frustration for quite a while, until you get comfortable, then it becomes 'recreation'--

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Old 10-28-2022, 08:55 AM
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Thanks for the detailed suggestions and encouragement, Tom. I may go through my entire coil of factory fuel line practicing, but so be it.
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Old 10-28-2022, 04:12 PM
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Brad---you might use some, but its really not that much. You are just flaring a couple of inches so its not alot. Once you fine the sweet spot on a particular size of tube, make a little guage and hang it on the flare tool so you'll always have it.

Tom
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Old 10-29-2022, 05:50 AM
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All it takes is practice, with what ever flare tool you use. RFT37, RoloFlair, etc....


Tom
Tom, what's the source document for that great flare attachment you posted? I'm keeping that picture with my RoloFlare.
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Old 10-29-2022, 07:58 AM
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'Aviation Technician Integrated Training Program EA-ITP-GB","General section textbook. I got it from a fomer Marine Helicopter mechanic after he retired.

The old manual is here----start on page 192 for rigid tubes--

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Old 11-15-2022, 04:45 PM
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For what it's worth to any other flaring newbies, I finally bought the Rolo-Flare tool and found it much easier to achieve good-looking flares right away.
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