Initial Flight Training in RV-12

[campi]

I have searched the forums but did not find the specific answer I'm looking for. I understand that ELSA cannot be used for hire, although certain CFIs have obtained LODAs to provide transition training, which is obviously a very good thing.

However, can an owner obtain primary flight training in his/her RV-12 certified under ELSA? So, for example, could a family member of the owner of the RV-12 legally obtain initial flight training in the 12?

Thanks,

[RatMan]

Originally Posted by campi

can an owner obtain primary flight training in his/her RV-12 certified under ELSA?

Yes

Originally Posted by campi

So, for example, could a family member of the owner of the RV-12 legally obtain initial flight training in the 12?

Yes, as long as the family member doesn't pay for the use of the aircraft.

Assuming the instructor doesn't own any part of the aircraft, they can charge for there time as well.

This link might help...http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/....asp?faqid=270

[pierre smith]

Originally Posted by RatMan

Yes



Yes, as long as the family member doesn't pay for the use of the aircraft.

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My wife asked the same question and I told her no money would be involved but we could...er....'trade'.

Best,

[campi]

Appreciate the quick response.

[JDRhodes]

Originally Posted by pierre smith

My wife asked the same question and I told her no money would be involved but we could...er....'trade'.

For what?

[pierre smith]

Jeff, aren't you a married man?

Best,

[dmaib]

Originally Posted by RatMan

Yes



Yes, as long as the family member doesn't pay for the use of the aircraft.

Assuming the instructor doesn't own any part of the aircraft, they can charge for there time as well.

This link might help...http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/....asp?faqid=270

The instructor is always free to charge for his or her time. Why would the instructor owning a part of (or the whole airplane, for that matter) change that? The prohibition is on charging for the use of the airplane, not for the instruction. A LODA allows the owner/instructor to charge for the use of the airplane, but has nothing to do with charging for instructor time.

[RatMan]

Originally Posted by dmaib

The instructor is always free to charge for his or her time. Why would the instructor owning a part of (or the whole airplane, for that matter) change that? The prohibition is on charging for the use of the airplane, not for the instruction. A LODA allows the owner/instructor to charge for the use of the airplane, but has nothing to do with charging for instructor time.

You are correct Sir, shouldn't be a problem. Now I think I'll get a -12 and start instructing in it. Whatdaya think, $150.00 an hour sound good? I've seen that done.

Seriously, you are correct in that an instructor can charge for his time in an experimental aircraft. Although a LODA has nothing to do with it.

[dmaib]

Originally Posted by RatMan

You are correct Sir, shouldn't be a problem. Now I think I'll get a -12 and start instructing in it. Whatdaya think, $150.00 an hour sound good? I've seen that done.

Yep, I've seen that done, too.

[Alex D]

Originally Posted by campi

I have searched the forums but did not find the specific answer I'm looking for. I understand that ELSA cannot be used for hire, although certain CFIs have obtained LODAs to provide transition training, which is obviously a very good thing.

However, can an owner obtain primary flight training in his/her RV-12 certified under ELSA? So, for example, could a family member of the owner of the RV-12 legally obtain initial flight training in the 12?

Thanks,

I agree with everyone that you can, but make sure you are not in Phase1 testing.

Alex D