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Old 12-21-2011, 02:58 PM
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Default RV-12 LODA

Has anyone heard of an E-LSA RV-12 being granted a LODA (Letter of Deviated Authority)? I am going to attempt the process for our blue RV-12 and it would be very helpful to speak with someone who has accomplished this task.

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Old 12-21-2011, 03:06 PM
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Mitch, I may be wrong, but I think Jetguy and RDog went through this process recently.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:21 PM
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Mitch, they should require the same from you as for what I did in my -6A..a lesson plan outline from start to finish, to include all maneuvers in the syllabus....and a few other requirements. In my -6A, they came out and inspected it and issued a new set of OPLIMS that allowed transition training.....a lot of paperwork but then again, who are you dealing with!

I also had to buy extra insurance for an additional $500 over the usual premium.

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Old 12-21-2011, 03:27 PM
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Pierre,

I've gone thru the requirement docs and am, at least partially aware, of what is ahead of me. I contacted my FSDO about this and they wanted to know if anyone has previously done it for the RV-12. If so, it will greatly facilitate the process with them.

I'll contact Jetguy and RDog and see what they have to say.

Thanks guys.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:59 PM
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Hi Mitch,

Please keep me in the loop on this. I've toyed with the idea as well.

Merry Christmas!

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:09 PM
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Hey John,

I'll let you know how it goes.

Merry Christmas to everyone!
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:27 PM
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What is the reason / advantages for requesting a LODA.

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:30 PM
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What is the reason / advantages for requesting a LODA.
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The LODA (Letter of Deviation Authority) allows a CFI to perform transition flight training for hire in his/her Experimental aircraft.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:28 PM
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I sent Mitch an email about the process. Since there have been several mishaps, 6 as I recall, with New pilots and their RV12s we thought we would lead the way in being the first to get a LODA or Letter of Deviation from the FAA to do transition and Biennial Flight Review training in my ELSA RV12. IMHO because the RV12 is much easier to build we are seeing more sales than any other ELSA kit. Over 650 serial numbers have been issued so far. Lots of these sales are to people who are building all by themselves with out getting any help from more experienced builders and they are doing their own first flights with little or no experience in experimental airplanes. This could lead to more mishaps on the RV12. Most Insurance company's require 5 hours in an experimental airplane. Now those builders in the lower 48 can get that training here in North Texas if they so desire. Even though the RV12 is very easy to fly it can still be a little tricky. Add to the equation highly integrated avionics that can cause distraction in the cockpit and you can get the picture. Pilots who haven't flown in several years or who have very low flight hours like a new Sport pilot need to get some training before their first flight in their RV12.
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:58 AM
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Gary, there is a FAR that prohibits renting an experimental for pay, like flight schools do with Cessnas and Pipers. The LODA, letter of deviation authority, waives that regulation, permitting CFI's with an experimental, to rent their airplane and give dual in it, ONLY to other already licensed pilots. It's not for teaching basic student pilots or to charge for birthday joyrides and such....it's strictly to prepare builders/buyers for flying their homebuilt.

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